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Old December 25th, 2016, 05:46 PM   #1
 
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WTH, Ruger???

I wanted to eliminate the right side (ejection port side) safety lever on my Mark IV rimfire pistol.

Instructions say to remove the grip panel with a 3/16" allen head, then use a 1/16" allen head to remove the bolt that holds the lever in place.

That little 1/16" right side ambi safety hex screw is in there so tight the allen head stripped out the socket in the bolt. WTH???

Now why would it take that much force to remove that damn bolt and why would Ruger put it in so tightly? Or did they use some ThreadLok?

It's either run the gun with the lever there or send it off to Ruger under warranty.

geeeezzz....



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Old December 25th, 2016, 06:20 PM   #2
 
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Probably some good loctite on it.
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Old December 25th, 2016, 06:58 PM   #3
 
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And it just don't make sense for them to do that if they did. A 1/16" hex head ain't a lot of metal to be reefing on nor will those small socket heads hold up to that force, either.

Oh well, I have my warranty inquiry in. I'll let them remove the damn thing and put the keeper in place.
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Too bad, I have seen several people on YouTube have them off and did not mention any problem at all. That makes me wonder if they just cross threaded it and rammed it in there. Just guessing of course.

Good Luck with it. I have a 2 week old Mark III waiting for them to open up in Prescott Arizona now. It got there a day to late for the Christmas shut down. So they will get mine on the 27th of December.
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That's frustrating
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Old January 1st, 2017, 01:31 PM   #6
 
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Mark IV Range Report - Another Problem

After breaking down, inspecting and lubing the new Ruger MK IV I took it to the indoor range. I threw a mish mash of different .22LR loads into an ammo can and took along a sufficient supply of Federal Automatch 40 grain as this is my preferred ammunition that I use regularly with all my .22 firearms.

I loaded up some magazines with the mish mash supply and proceeded to fire the weapon. My intent was to test functionality utilizing varied loads. I experienced no failure to load, failure to fire and failure to eject issues whatsoever over the span of 100 rounds.

Ergonomically, the MK IV fits my hand very nicely. The plastic grips are finely checked, much like the G10 grip panels I install on my other semi-automatic handguns. All controls are easily manipulated without having to move the handgun around so you can see them. I noted that Ruger has enlarged the bolt ear relief cut at the back of the receiver, compared to my MK II, which allows for a firmer grip on the bolt ears to charge the weapon or to pull back the bolt to clear it.

After I got the MK IV hot and dirty, I switched over to the Federal ammunition and got out the sand bags. It was time to test bullet placement and accuracy from a rest with a consistent load. After the first five rounds it was obvious that the impact point was low and to the left. Over the next five rounds I was able to adjust the elevation to where the impact point was spot on.

Then I attempted to adjust, or drift, the adjustable site so the impact point moved right. Here is where we had a failure that not only aggravated me but puzzled me as well. The adjustment screw for windage only turned one way and that direction would move the point of impact further right. Iíve never had an adjustable sight on any weapon that didnít move both ways. I suspect thereís a problem.

That was the end of the testing for now until such time as Ruger returns my call regarding the windage adjustment issue.
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Sometimes screws from the factory are just tight.

I had a minor issue I just fixed with a major manufacturer

concerning buck tight screws. I don't blame the

manufacturer, and if I'd been unable to resolve the issues, I'm sure they

would have helped me, as much as I am certain Ruger will stand

behind it's products.


During the process, I had to rely upon my scoped Ruger MKII to stand

in, for the out of service carbine. I predict the MKIV will be a gun you

are going to enjoy and also rely upon, in the future.
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After breaking down, inspecting and lubing the new Ruger MK IV I took it to the indoor range. I threw a mish mash of different .22LR loads into an ammo can and took along a sufficient supply of Federal Automatch 40 grain as this is my preferred ammunition that I use regularly with all my .22 firearms.

I loaded up some magazines with the mish mash supply and proceeded to fire the weapon. My intent was to test functionality utilizing varied loads. I experienced no failure to load, failure to fire and failure to eject issues whatsoever over the span of 100 rounds.

Ergonomically, the MK IV fits my hand very nicely. The plastic grips are finely checked, much like the G10 grip panels I install on my other semi-automatic handguns. All controls are easily manipulated without having to move the handgun around so you can see them. I noted that Ruger has enlarged the bolt ear relief cut at the back of the receiver, compared to my MK II, which allows for a firmer grip on the bolt ears to charge the weapon or to pull back the bolt to clear it.

After I got the MK IV hot and dirty, I switched over to the Federal ammunition and got out the sand bags. It was time to test bullet placement and accuracy from a rest with a consistent load. After the first five rounds it was obvious that the impact point was low and to the left. Over the next five rounds I was able to adjust the elevation to where the impact point was spot on.

Then I attempted to adjust, or drift, the adjustable site so the impact point moved right. Here is where we had a failure that not only aggravated me but puzzled me as well. The adjustment screw for windage only turned one way and that direction would move the point of impact further right. I’ve never had an adjustable sight on any weapon that didn’t move both ways. I suspect there’s a problem.

That was the end of the testing for now until such time as Ruger returns my call regarding the windage adjustment issue.
with your finger press the sight blade to the left compressing spring slightly to take spring pressure off the screw...while holding the blade to the left back the screw completely out...put a little grease (I used a dab of moly paste) in the screw hole and on the serrated end of screw...turn the screw back in...problem solved.

here's what it looks like...


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I'll give that a try.

Thanks!
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Interestingly, the rear sight on my wife's new 22/45 got stuck all the way to the left. The screw would not back off. I finally put the gun in a ziplock bag, and placed it in the freezer for a couple of hours hoping the metal would contract enough to take the pressure off the detent so the screw could be turned. It worked perfectly and I was able to easily turn the adjustment screw.
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I got a brand new rear sight that came on a NM Blackhawk that looks like they just jammed the screw down into a hole with no threads. The sight blade was also pushed out the left side.

A BLIND man could have seen the whole thing was trashed.

Send it back, along with a "Thank You" note to Rugers non existent quality control staff.
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