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Old December 2nd, 2016, 01:03 PM   #1
 
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Mark IV - Will Massachusetts See Them?

I'm a proud owner of a MIII 22/45 and love the pistol. I've actually modified it quite a bit thanks to Tandemkross using several of their excellent modification options. At this point, I've gotten pretty good and field stripping the gun and can actually take it apart and put it back together without any foul language being said!

Having said this, I LOVE the new Mark IV. For those of you who don't have the pleasure of living in the People's Republic of Massachusetts, despite the fact that the Mark IV (both models) are "approved" on the attorney general's approved firearms roster (effective 10/16/2016), Ruger claims they are not able to sell them in this state and none of the dealers I've reached out to expect to see any in the foreseeable future.

This is too bad. if anybody has a clue why the Mark IV is not being shipped to MA, it would be great to know. Hopefully, with enough outcry from gun owners in this state, Ruger will make whatever modifications are needed so the Mark IV can be available to what I would imagine is a very hopeful audience.

Happy Holidays and please shoot safely!



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As I understand it, there's two different set of lists here in MA. There's the list we can all see http://www.mass.gov/eopss/docs/chsb/...ter10-2016.pdf which are the makes/models of firearms that went through the "consumer safety testing" and then there's the super secret AG approved list.

With Maura "copies and duplicates" Healy in office, I'm sure the super secret list has gotten much shorter.
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With Maura "copies and duplicates" Healy in office, I'm sure the super secret list has gotten much shorter.
LOL!! Hopefully someday all of this wasteful bureaucracy will come to an end!
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Pretty sure y'all are screwed.
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Pretty sure y'all are screwed.
It's bad enough but at least people have some chance of getting a carry license (depending on what city/town they live in) unlike NJ!

Although AG Maura Healey is soooooooo horrible I actually miss our former AG Martha "It's not illegal to be an illegal in Massachusetts" Coakley

If you look on the approved list I linked there's plenty of different Glocks there, trying to buy a brand new one when you're not an L.E.O. isn't going to happen
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I fled there in 2000. Good luck owning guns with those gun haters there. With that said, welcome aboard.
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I'm a proud owner of a MIII 22/45 and love the pistol. I've actually modified it quite a bit thanks to Tandemkross using several of their excellent modification options. At this point, I've gotten pretty good and field stripping the gun and can actually take it apart and put it back together without any foul language being said!

Having said this, I LOVE the new Mark IV. For those of you who don't have the pleasure of living in the People's Republic of Massachusetts, despite the fact that the Mark IV (both models) are "approved" on the attorney general's approved firearms roster (effective 10/16/2016), Ruger claims they are not able to sell them in this state and none of the dealers I've reached out to expect to see any in the foreseeable future.

This is too bad. if anybody has a clue why the Mark IV is not being shipped to MA, it would be great to know. Hopefully, with enough outcry from gun owners in this state, Ruger will make whatever modifications are needed so the Mark IV can be available to what I would imagine is a very hopeful audience.

Happy Holidays and please shoot safely!
If you read the approved roster, it lists 2 model numbers of MKIV. There is no more description than "hunter" and "target" (no SS/Blue, bbl length, etc.).

If you go to the Ruger website, it lists 3 model numbers being produced and for sale (but not in MA).

The 2 "approved" model numbers are not any of the 3 "for sale" model numbers. This tells me that Ruger is producing some "lawyerized" versions for sale in MA, but haven't made enough to fill the distribution channels yet.

They're coming. It'll be interesting to see what kind of garbage gets added to make the new models. Maybe they added the LCI stuff again?
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The 2 "approved" model numbers are not any of the 3 "for sale" model numbers. This tells me that Ruger is producing some "lawyerized" versions for sale in MA, but haven't made enough to fill the distribution channels yet.

They're coming. It'll be interesting to see what kind of garbage gets added to make the new models. Maybe they added the LCI stuff again?
I did notice that discrepancy between the "for sale" model numbers on the Ruger site and the MA approved roster model numbers. I bet you're absolutely right that Ruger is going to release two Mark IVs for "Massholes". If the LCI is the only difference, that's certainly something I can easily live with.

I hope they are in fact being built and in the distribution channels soon. This foolish state makes you wear out your knees at an early age praying that manufacturers will build guns that meet the ludicrous gun regulations we live with.
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Yesterday Ruger announced (via email to their customers) that they are now producing a Massachusetts approved and compliant set of Mark IV pistols with the Target and Hunter designations. The model numbers for these guns are 40160 for the Hunter and 40159 for the Target (spec sheets showing the MA compliance can be found on the Ruger website). Nothing was said about when we might see them at Massachusetts FA dealers, but things seem to be going in the right direction.

One thing is for sure, they are NOT cheap! List on the Target is $569 and on the Hunter, $799. They have beautiful new grips and I guess you get what you pay for when you consider the beautiful new take-down system. That certainly is worth something as any previous Mark owners will attest!

Happy holidays and shoot safely!

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I wonder what the changes for the Massachusetts model is also. I have a Mark IV on order and I hope they are only sending that model to Mass. and the distributers don't screw up and send that model to other states by accident. I will have to check mine when it comes in.
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This is why every time I hear a politician say, "I think we ought to just let the states decide", it makes me want to puke!
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My LGS here in Taxachusetts just got in the Mark IV! The target model (40159) and the Hunter model (40160). Happy New Year!
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I went to my LGS today to check out the "Massachusetts approved" versions of the Ruger Mark IV. I found the grips to be quite large and less than appealing to me, so I didn't buy one. (They did end up selling out, though.) Sure wish the Luger style grips were available here. The store owner said Ruger had to go with the larger grips here in Taxachusetts because the gun is lacking some of the Mass-mandated safety features, so they went with the larger grips so a kid couldn't easily grab and fire the gun. Guess I'll save my pennies for when Massachusetts approves the .357 magnum Redhawk. Time to move to Oklahoma!
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