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Old April 14th, 2015, 09:53 AM   #1
 
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Question SR22 THE 1st ROUND JAMS? REALLY?

I took my new SR22 to the range this morning.
After the cleaning and final inspection, loaded 10 into the mag.
First squeeze was a bit heavey. Then BANG!
Went to squeeze off the 2nd........... NOTHING.
Dropped the mag out, pulled the slide back. One in the chamber.
Racked it back to eject it and nothing.
The brass from the 1st round was jammed in the chamber!

After field stripping yet again, I began to slowly coax it out.
This only took 25 minutes of range time.

After that, it cycled as it should.
Seemed to be a bit of a hair trigger for shots 2-10. Shot 1 has a heavy pull.
Double vs single action I guess.




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Welcome, my brother in law is a Red Knight (nh)
Sorry about your trouble with the sr22
Hope it works out better for you
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The trigger differential is most likely double action [followed by all single action]. You should be able to confirm this because you have to affirmatively decock the gun - it is not something that happens passively. If you don't decock, all shots will be lighter, single action shots.

Regarding the casing stuck in the chamber, I've had it happen rarely. It appears to be ammo related, most recently with Aquila. I carry a Leatherman with needle nose pliers. If a casing does get stuck [as I mentioned, rarely], it generally takes me 30 - 45 seconds to remove the casing.

Despite your initial problems, I believe your SR22 will grow on you with time.
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I took my new SR22 to the range this morning.
After the cleaning and final inspection, loaded 10 into the mag.
First squeeze was a bit heavey. Then BANG!
Went to squeeze off the 2nd........... NOTHING.
Dropped the mag out, pulled the slide back. One in the chamber.
Racked it back to eject it and nothing.
The brass from the 1st round was jammed in the chamber!

After field stripping yet again, I began to slowly coax it out.
This only took 25 minutes of range time.

After that, it cycled as it should.
Seemed to be a bit of a hair trigger for shots 2-10. Shot 1 has a heavy pull.
Double vs single action I guess.
It's a good pistol. Break it in & it will give you smiles at the range. Pull the hammer back if it's down & shoot it S/A.
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The shell casings jamming in the breech is most likely ammo related. What brand are you using? Any Winchester causes problems in my SR22. You mentioned that you cleaned it....did you lube it also before taking it out?
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You wouldn't happen to be using Golden Bullets would you?
I have had the casings split on them and jam in the chamber. I won't even use them in my old single shot!
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You wouldn't happen to be using Golden Bullets would you?
I have had the casings split on them and jam in the chamber. I won't even use them in my old single shot!
I've put many thousands of rounds of Remington Golden Bullets through her different SR22s as well as a 10/22 mostly without issue aside form the pixie dust.
I don't recall which ammo but I have had exactly one time where a case failed to extract and being new to shooting at the time I asked the guy working the gun shop counter to take a look and he racked it vigorously three or four times before the offending case popped out and it has not happened again since.
I've had lots of failure to fire with federal bulk pack.
Many of the issue I've had early on where related to the magazine (mostly on the 10/22).

And yes the double action trigger pull on the SR22 is very long while the single action trigger pull is almost non existant. You can put the first shot into single action mode by manually cocking the hammer.
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I am using winchester "super X" ??? Not mag or sub sonic.
I had cleaned and lubed via the manual so it must have been my drum luck the first round had the brass flair out.
My neighbor works at Remington in Ilion NY doing test fires. He tells me that even the military sniper rifles have that happen. He gave me a "tap rod" he called it. Can be used to check to see if round left the barrel or "tap" a stuck casing out.
Small enough to slide into the .22's brass and not damage the barrel. Made from "Rock Maple" wood.
We shal see if it were to happen again

As for the gun itself........ I love it
Thanks for the insight, info, and welcomes.

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You wouldn't happen to be using Golden Bullets would you?
Love comments like this! Send me all your Golden Bullets stock, please, because all my .22's love them and feed/shoot/fire them reliably.

Regards the SR-22, the first shot may have been in DA mode, but if the slide was back to load the chamber then the gun should have been in SA mode, as the hammer would have been cocked. Unless the hammer was dropped/decocked by the safety. So far as a 1st-shot-jam, just be glad you got it done and checked off because once the gun is worn in it'll be very reliable afterwards.
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Love comments like this! Send me all your Golden Bullets stock, please, because all my .22's love them and feed/shoot/fire them reliably.

Regards the SR-22, the first shot may have been in DA mode, but if the slide was back to load the chamber then the gun should have been in SA mode, as the hammer would have been cocked. Unless the hammer was dropped/decocked by the safety. So far as a 1st-shot-jam, just be glad you got it done and checked off because once the gun is worn in it'll be very reliable afterwards.
If I hadn't already disposed of what I had left of them, you would be welcome to them.
Maybe I had a bad batch, but I had 3 cases split in one day at the range. I had no desire to try for four.
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Maybe I had a bad batch, but I had 3 cases split in one day at the range. I had no desire to try for four.
Cases splitting indicates you have a chamber issue or an undersized throat, because a 22LR chamber should be sized appropriately to allow the case to stretch slightly. You weren't by chance firing 22LR in a 22WMR chamber now?
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Triple checked the box. All are 22LR not MAGS.
The other 19 rounds worked flawlessly.
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Cases splitting indicates you have a chamber issue or an undersized throat, because a 22LR chamber should be sized appropriately to allow the case to stretch slightly. You weren't by chance firing 22LR in a 22WMR chamber now?
I had a remington Golden Bullet stick in my SR22 chamber on Monday of this week. I carefully pulled it out and found that the case was split.

I've run more than 3500 .22lr rounds thru my SR22 including about 10-15 different brands and have never had a case split before.

I'm having a hard time believing that with that many rounds thru it without splits before, that I have a chamber or throat issue.

I guess that a case splitting on the first shot would have me watching it closely.

I have had terrible luck with the SuperX rounds in any of my .22 cal firearms.
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My case did not split. It just got stuck in the chamber.
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