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Old June 15th, 2013, 06:34 PM   #1
 
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LC9 vs LC380

Other than the caliber what is the difference between the lc9 and lc380. From everything I've seen and read it's the same gun.
Why would I/you buy the 380 instead of the 9?



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Unless special circumstances arise for a bigger frame with a weaker cartridge- I ask myself the same question! I can see it fitting a small niche, but I like the LCP-LC9 combo
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Other than the caliber what is the difference between the lc9 and lc380. From everything I've seen and read it's the same gun.
Why would I/you buy the 380 instead of the 9?
Yes, they are the same size but the 380 has much less recoil. That is a big plus for people who are recoil sensitive but like the size of the weapon.
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Didn't think of that.Thanks
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Not that it makes a difference really, but LC380 uses a modified 9mm mag (.380acp rounds don't seat all the way back in the mag). Not that I'm recommending it, but one could probably get away with running .380acp in the LC9 in a stock setup, or just need to get a LC380 mag. Not sure on the reliability though.
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Not that it makes a difference really, but LC380 uses a modified 9mm mag (.380acp rounds don't seat all the way back in the mag). Not that I'm recommending it, but one could probably get away with running .380acp in the LC9 in a stock setup, or just need to get a LC380 mag. Not sure on the reliability though.
Are you suggesting that the .380 acp cartridge could be fired in an stock LC9? I hope not as the cartridge is a different length and diameter than a 9mm and would certainly split the case of the .380. The bullet is the same diameter but thats all.
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Just wait until you get old with arthritis & you will see why someone want the LC380. It has both easier slide rack & recoil than an LC9 & that is what we want. It got so I could not shoot the Kel Tec 380 or even the NAA 32. You can't hit anything with the NAA 32 anyway & I am a good shot.

I have said before that the LC 380 is one of only 2 locked breech 380's on the market in a regular sized gun. Some of the mini's are locked breech, but they are still to small & light to shoot for bad wrists. I think the LC 380 is the easiest to rack & shoot than any 380 sold. I have never tried a Taurus 380 so maybe I am wrong there.
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The LC 380 was designed for recoil sensitive people like my wife, and I for one am very glad it was. there are a lot of small framed women out there that this gun is perfect for. And too many macho men that just dont understand the needs of others. I guess that is why this exact same question has been asked about a thousand times.
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I withdraw the question
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Are you suggesting that the .380 acp cartridge could be fired in an stock LC9? I hope not as the cartridge is a different length and diameter than a 9mm and would certainly split the case of the .380. The bullet is the same diameter but thats all.
The only difference that exists between the 9x17mm (380 ACP, 9mm Short) and the 9x19mm (9mm Luger) is one of length, there is no difference in case or bullet diameter. It is not safe or advisable to attempt to fire a 380 ACP in a 9mm as the round will not headspace properly, and even if it does fire the 380 may not (will not) generate enough energy to cycle the action of a 9mm handgun.
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Other than the caliber what is the difference between the lc9 and lc380. From everything I've seen and read it's the same gun.
Why would I/you buy the 380 instead of the 9?
Depends on what other caliber of handgun you have. Myself, I have the LC9 because I also have another 9mm with plenty of ammo so I can shoot both guns. Now I did buy a Taurus 738 TCP and now have to stock up on a few boxes of 380s.
Recoil would be less with the LC380 but alittle more expensive to shoot per round than the LC9.
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Just wait until you get old with arthritis & you will see why someone want the LC380. It has both easier slide rack & recoil than an LC9 & that is what we want. It got so I could not shoot the Kel Tec 380 or even the NAA 32. You can't hit anything with the NAA 32 anyway & I am a good shot.

I have said before that the LC 380 is one of only 2 locked breech 380's on the market in a regular sized gun. Some of the mini's are locked breech, but they are still to small & light to shoot for bad wrists. I think the LC 380 is the easiest to rack & shoot than any 380 sold. I have never tried a Taurus 380 so maybe I am wrong there.
Thanks for posting this. I had bought a Walther PK380 for my wife (who has very bad wrists) but due to the geometry of the recoil, it tears her up and she hates it. She has held my LC9 and really likes the way it feels, but I'm pretty sure shooting it in anything other than a life or death situation would not be worth the pain she would endure from the 9mm recoil.

I'll buy a LC380 and let her try that.
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Are you suggesting that the .380 acp cartridge could be fired in an stock LC9? I hope not as the cartridge is a different length and diameter than a 9mm and would certainly split the case of the .380. The bullet is the same diameter but thats all.
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The only difference that exists between the 9x17mm (380 ACP, 9mm Short) and the 9x19mm (9mm Luger) is one of length, there is no difference in case or bullet diameter. It is not safe or advisable to attempt to fire a 380 ACP in a 9mm as the round will not headspace properly, and even if it does fire the 380 may not (will not) generate enough energy to cycle the action of a 9mm handgun.
The .380 case is indeed slightly smaller diameter than the 9mm, back near the base of the case. So a .380 fired in a 9mm will bulge the case, and you wouldn't want to try reloading it, but the ones I've seen did not actually split.

Which leads to the fact that too-short cases will usually, but not always, fire in a longer chamber. What happens is that the extractor holds the case firmly enough that it pretty much stays in place when hit by the firing pin, and the primer gets ignited. I've lost track of how many "9mm Retard" cases I've seen- that happens when a 9mm rd is loaded somewhere into a .40 S&W magazine, gets cycled into the gun, and then fired normally. The case bulges badly but usually does not split, and sometimes the gun cycles normally.

For that same reason (extractor), you can often fire 9mm in a .38 Super gun.
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The LC380 is a gem. Just fired mine for the first time this weekend - a great little pistol. If you have smaller frame people in your family, this may just be the ideal gun. My wife and daughter could not rack the SR9c slide and didn't like the recoil of any other 9mm. I didn't dare have them try an LCP. The LC380 is a sweet shooter! Now....to find some more Hornady Critical Defense.....
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The only difference that exists between the 9x17mm (380 ACP, 9mm Short) and the 9x19mm (9mm Luger) is one of length, there is no difference in case or bullet diameter. It is not safe or advisable to attempt to fire a 380 ACP in a 9mm as the round will not headspace properly, and even if it does fire the 380 may not (will not) generate enough energy to cycle the action of a 9mm handgun.
That is incorrect. 9mm Luger (9x19) is a tapered case design (9.93mm at base, 9.65mm at neck). .380 (9x17) is a straight wall case (9.5mm for both measurements).

Yes, they do both use a 9.0mm (0.355") bullet.
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