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Old March 1st, 2008, 01:10 PM   #1
 
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LCP .380 Safety

I can't find anything saying if there is a safety on the LCP. If there isn't how safe is it to carry with a round in the chamber? I carry a DA revolver and a SA revolver so an external safety isn't an issue. I want to carry an LCP, but it must be as safe as a revolver.



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It doesn't look like there is an actual safety catch on the LCP. I suspect safety will depend only on a a longer and heavier trigger pull.
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I believe that it will be just as safe as a double action revolver. I know guys that carry Kel-Tecs in the pocket without a safety. No pocket holster. No problems. I don't use a safety with P345, being double action first shot. Don't carry it concealed anymore though. I have a small 9mm, double action only, that I carry occasionally and have no use for the safety on it either.
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So the LCP is DA only on the first shot? I guess it's as safe as a DA revolver then. I'd just hate to shoot my foot off.
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I think the LCP is a double action only pistol. ALL shots double action.
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Old March 1st, 2008, 04:06 PM   #6
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Ruger specs the trigger pull at 8 lbs however in the GunBlast test by Jeff Quin, his gun only had a 5 lb 6 oz trigger pull. The throw on the trigger is rated at 1/2" compared to 7/8" on a Ruger GP-100. So .... the LCP will be a much lighter pull and a significantly shorter throw than a typical DA revolver. Personally, I wouldn't trust any loaded gun with a trigger pull less than 7 lbs to be in my pocket without a manual safety catch. As with all new guns, I guarantee within the first few days after release, someone will be asking how to lighten the trigger pull on the LCP.
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Now I'm having second thoughts. I'm not a fool with guns, but I do like to be 100% sure that it's safe to carry. I'd hate for it to go off when it shouldn't.

I was checking out a Kel Tec 9mm that has an automatic hammer block safety. It's a DA only gun. Is this better?

http://www.kel-tec-cnc.com/pf9.html

I don't like Kel Tec like I do Ruger, but....
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Bountyhunter, I'll bet the LCP will be just fine ... as long as people don't go screwin' with the innards. The LCP is a striker pistol .... meaning it has no hammer, only a spring loaded heavy firing pin that acts like a battering ram when "flicked" by the trigger.

An automatic hammer block works much like the transfer bar on a Ruger revolver ... the trigger has to be pulled or the hammer will be blocked from hitting the firing pin. This is a great safety device but it still doesn't prevent the gun from firing if the trigger is accidentally pulled. The PF-9 is a decent little gun with lots more power than a 380. It is a DA only pistol (not a striker) but still does not have a manual safety catch. I think Ruger's SR9 is about the only polymer frame (striker or DA) pistol that comes with a manual safety and it sure isn't a pocket pistol.
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Bountyhunter, I'll bet the LCP will be just fine
I'll take your word for it, Iowegan. It's just that I normally carry a revolver and am secure in the fact that I won't have an accident. I want to carry something a little smaller like the LCP, but the more I thought about carrying it with a round chambered, the more I didn't know if I liked the idea. My XD-45 is the same way. I don't carry that though. So the only time it's got a round in the chamber is when I'm at the range.
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I myself love my 1 and only ruger so far the p97dc and was looking at the lcp as well but i like how the little 3at from kel-tec has the pocket clip so u can carry it like a clip on ocket knife the only thing i don't like is the fact it has no slide lock manual or otherwise . Reason i have been looking into these two is the fact i can carry it pretty much anywere and have that piece of mind should i ever need it . The 45 is just a little large for i think to carry full time . Would any of u thinkt he 380 say loaded with remington 102 golden sabers do the job if needed? Plus these guns are more in my price range .
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I myself love my 1 and only ruger so far the p97dc and was looking at the lcp as well but i like how the little 3at from kel-tec has the pocket clip so u can carry it like a clip on ocket knife the only thing i don't like is the fact it has no slide lock manual or otherwise . Reason i have been looking into these two is the fact i can carry it pretty much anywere and have that piece of mind should i ever need it . The 45 is just a little large for i think to carry full time . Would any of u thinkt he 380 say loaded with remington 102 golden sabers do the job if needed? Plus these guns are more in my price range .
The Kel-tecs don't come with a pocket clip, you have to buy it separately and install it. The frame of the LCP is so close to the KT that the pocket clip should fit with no problem. Personally I don't like them since I won't carry a firearm, even one with the looooong trigger pull of my P-3AT without the trigger covered. I do see the appeal of them though. Using them just opens up one more opportunity for Mr. Murphy and he has enough without my help.

The lack of a slide lock on the P-3AT isn't a big deal. In fact I would rather not have one then have the worthless manual only one on the LCP. I cannot understand the need for it. It's not needed for cleaning since the pistol is so easy to field-strip, and it doesn't have last shot hold-open. The only thing I can think of is that it lets the action stay open on the range if you shoot at a public range where this might be an issue. I would never take the P-3AT to the range and then put it back into my pocket for carry without a field-strip cleaning. Actually for any semi-auto that field-strips easily I cannot see ever not cleaning them that way. It's much easier to clean the barrel when it's in your hand. Doing it this way also lets you get the old grease off and put a nice new clean layer on.
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Old March 8th, 2008, 07:10 AM   #12
 
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I carry a Kel-tec P3AT for backup and the Ruger is a copy of it.. It has no safety
and don't need one . It is double action only , it has a rebound firing pin and the
hammer is flush with slide and no way to hit it if dropped.. So it can have one in
chamber and 100% safe and ready to fire without fussing with any safety..
GO TO RUGER FIREARM AND VIEW THERE VIDEO
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I ordered the LCP Thursday. I should have the only one my local gun store is getting next Wednesday. I think it'll be a great little SD gun.
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Here is the hositer I use when I carry as backup .. the gun , hositer and 2 mags
loaded is 16 ozs


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tn gun runner, Tell me something .... how do you get to that gun in a timely manner? Further, isn't it a bit alerting to be unzipping the thing? I would think that "carrier" would be a nice way to transport but would fail the "practical" test for 2 rounds in 3 seconds and in a real situation could get you killed.
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