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Old January 11th, 2013, 03:51 PM   #1
 
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P95 safety/decocker question

I recently bought a P95 with a safety/decocker. I used to have one with a decocker only, but I don't see that they are available any more, at least not on the Ruger website.

My question is this: Is there any way to change the safety to a decocker only?
Maybe by adding a spring somewhere to push it back up and hold it there? If so, how would I get it apart to do so? I am a service tech/mechanic, so I have would normally not have a problem taking it apart, if it is possible.

Any ideas?
Thanks in advance.

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Old January 11th, 2013, 04:16 PM   #2
 
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Use the lever to decock, and then flip it up to fire like the decocker would. No spring needed.
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Use the lever to decock, and then flip it up to fire like the decocker would. No spring needed.
Sorry to butt in, but I just bought a P95 myself, and I'm a little confused as to how the safety/decocker works (this is my first pistol of this type).

I didn't take possession of it yet (waiting period), but I'm trying to learn about it as much as I can in the mean time.

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Use the lever to decock, and then flip it up to fire like the decocker would. No spring needed.
You're missing my point. With a decocker only, you can use it to decock, but it flips back up by itself. I really don't want a safety on a carry gun. I don't ever want to pull it out of the holster in a real-life situation and find out I forgot to take the safety off. A carry gun should not have a safety unless you are around children while carrying.
That's why I like GLOCKS....no safety. With a good holster, it's just as safe as if it had a safety on it, but you never have to worry that you left the safety on.
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Sorry to butt in, but I just bought a P95 myself, and I'm a little confused as to how the safety/decocker works (this is my first pistol of this type).

I didn't take possession of it yet, but I'm trying to learn about it as much as I can.
The safety is also a decocker. If the hammer is cocked with a round in the chamber, you can push the safety/decocker down and it will lower the hammer without firing (decock the gun). But if you accidentally leave it down, in the safety mode, and you have to draw it from the holster quickly and use it, it won't fire unless you first push the safety up to the firing mode. Those few seconds could get you killed. The last P95 I had, it would spring back up automatically...it was just a decocker, not a safety lever. That's what I would prefer, but I couldn't find one. They're not on Ruger's website, so I'm assuming that they're not available in that configuration.

I was wondering if anyone knew a way to modify it so it was a decocker only.

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Sorry to butt in, but I just bought a P95 myself, and I'm a little confused as to how the safety/decocker works (this is my first pistol of this type).

I didn't take possession of it yet, but I'm trying to learn about it as much as I can.
Chris the decocker acts as a safety and a decocker. When the gun is cocked (hammer back) and you move the safety/decocker to the "safe" position, it automatically disengages the firing pin and drops the hammer. The gun stays in this position until you flip up the safety to the off position.
I owned a P345 that has the same kind of decocker that douglas is talking about and I now own a P95. It's not an issue for me but I can see where it could be for guys who are used to guns with no safetys and/or Glocks.

I simply unholster the gun and as I'm moving the gun upward to engage the target I flip the safety up. No problem after a little practice doing this at the range or at home with the gun unloaded.
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The safety is also a decocker. If the hammer is cocked with a round in the chamber, you can push the safety/decocker down and it will lower the hammer without firing (decock the gun). But if you accidentally leave it down, in the safety mode, and you have to draw it from the holster quickly and use it, it won't fire unless you first push the safety up to the firing mode. Those few seconds could get you killed. The last P95 I had, it would spring back up automatically...it was just a decocker, not a safety lever. That's what I would prefer, but I couldn't find one. They're not on Ruger's website, so I'm assuming that they're not available in that configuration.

I was wondering if anyone knew a way to modify it so it was a decocker only.

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I think I understand what your saying, but couldn't you just de-cock it and then flip the safety back up so it's ready to go?

I didn't buy mine as a CCW (too big) but as a HD or open carry SHTF pistol, so maybe this is not as great of a concern to me?
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I also have a P345 as well as other guns with a decocker/safety. I've trained myself; as soon as I load the gun, I flip the decocker/safety down then immediately back to the fire position. That is the way I carry.

Like the OP though, I would prefer not to have to do that last step.
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I think I understand what your saying, but couldn't you just de-cock it and then flip the safety back up so it's ready to go
Hey... that's a great idea.

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You're missing my point. With a decocker only, you can use it to decock, but it flips back up by itself. I really don't want a safety on a carry gun. I don't ever want to pull it out of the holster in a real-life situation and find out I forgot to take the safety off. A carry gun should not have a safety unless you are around children while carrying.
That's why I like GLOCKS....no safety. With a good holster, it's just as safe as if it had a safety on it, but you never have to worry that you left the safety on.
No... I didnt miss your point, I understand completely. If you want a carry gun without a safety, why didnt you buy a carry gun without a safety. Are you really so forgetful that you would carry a gun and not know what position the safety was in? Are you concerned that the safety could somehow magically flip itself on? If you like Glocks, why didnt you buy a Glock? Carry the gun around for a few days at home, UNLOADED, with the safety off, and practice drawing, and see if the safety engages itself. I wouldnt modify the safety on a gun that you are going to carry. That is simply asking for a very real legal problem if you ever had to use the pistol to protect yourself. If you really are unhappy with the way the P95 operates, sell it, and buy a P95DC. They are out there, and then you never have to be concerned. I would just decock the pistol, and then flip the safety up to fire and stop worrying about it.
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i dont see any need to modify it. if you dont want to carry with with the safety on, dont. i never carryied mine with the safety on. so that first pull is still the heavy double action. modifying it would just take away your option to fire in single action also
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My P94 has the safety/decocker, and I would have preferred the decocker only as a safety makes next to no sense on a double action pistol, but with that said, how often does one even use the decocker except possibly at a range where you don't finish a whole magazine and want to decock it. Otherwise, I rarely ever used mine. Just don't use the safety.
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Hey... that's a great idea.



No... I didnt miss your point, I understand completely. If you want a carry gun without a safety, why didnt you buy a carry gun without a safety. Are you really so forgetful that you would carry a gun and not know what position the safety was in? Are you concerned that the safety could somehow magically flip itself on? If you like Glocks, why didnt you buy a Glock? Carry the gun around for a few days at home, UNLOADED, with the safety off, and practice drawing, and see if the safety engages itself. I wouldnt modify the safety on a gun that you are going to carry. That is simply asking for a very real legal problem if you ever had to use the pistol to protect yourself. If you really are unhappy with the way the P95 operates, sell it, and buy a P95DC. They are out there, and then you never have to be concerned. I would just decock the pistol, and then flip the safety up to fire and stop worrying about it.
They do not make the decocker only any more, according to the Ruger website. A few years ago I sold my decocker only P95, but now I'd like another. I had to take what was available, the way things are right now.
And if you have never forgotten anything, you're a better man than I! I salute you, Sir! And yes, you still missed the point, or you wouldn't have went through the above rant. Also, there would be no legal problem if you modified the safety and had to use it to protect yourself...you would have meant to fire it. The only problem would be if somehow it went off by negligence because the safety couldn't be engaged.
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I carry mine with a round chambered, decocked, with the safety OFF so it's a double action pull the first time. It takes well less than a second to unsafety if necessary. I can't see wanting to modify it. If it ain't broke...

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If its going to be a carry gun just practice drawing it and flipping the safety off as you clear the holster. Its becomes a part of your training.

I'm not sure but if its still the same but base security were not allowed to stand post with a round loaded in the chamber. Had to draw and rack. I'm sure its changed at some posts. But I'll bet right now some some Marine is standing out side a diplomats post or Embassy lobby detail with out one in the chamber.
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