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Old December 22nd, 2012, 10:53 AM   #1
 
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Unhappy Sr40c or Sr9c?

As far as stopping a threat in my home or for concealed carry, what is your opinion on a 9mm versus .40s&w? Sectional density of a 9mm appears to make it a very close second to a .40s&w using Hornady's Critical Defense. I'm leaning to a 9mm because I want my Daughters and Wife to be able to handle a pistol on a range and defensive situations too if necessary.



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Old December 22nd, 2012, 11:27 AM   #2
 
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I have both 9mm & 40sw; both are fine. The 9mm w/124gr is sufficient for home protection; I know that Federal has reduced recoil loads...
Your female family members will like shooting the 9mm better; use 115gr jacketed. You will find that the 9mm rounds are cheaper; I like the P95...
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Old December 22nd, 2012, 11:48 AM   #3
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I would go with the SR9c. The whole family could use it easier the the 40. Less recoil. Just my opinion. Better to know and use the 9 then maybe not even want to hold the 40 because of recoil. Both are great guns.
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I have both 9mm & 40sw; both are fine. The 9mm w/124gr is sufficient for home protection; I know that Federal has reduced recoil loads...
Your female family members will like shooting the 9mm better; use 115gr jacketed. You will find that the 9mm rounds are cheaper; I like the P95...
Makes good sense what you say. I've heard from a few about using a .45 or .40 but ballistics seem to be very good for a 9mm. I want to stop the threat and keep recoil to a minimum for the fam. I shoot a Super Redhawk .44 for fun and hunting but scary for a personal home defense firearm. Always aware of it's ability to go through walls with the hollow point Hornady XTP ammo I use. Plan to purchase within the next couple weeks.
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Hp bullets do not flatten or open up when hitting hard surfaces, Yes they may deform a tad. HP bullets open from hydro-lick force ( water or body fluids in the cavity )
You would be amazed at how much sheet rock a 9 mill will go through.
The 40 is by far a faster fight stopper, but as been said it has it's share of recoil.
For the family I think the 9 mill would probly suite you better. No use expecting someone to use a pistol they may be a little shy of. 40 has a muzzle blast and some recoil unless you tame it down a bit. ( reloading ) then your back to a 9 as for stopping power.
Go for the biggest hole you can make with the best suitable round for you and the family.
We use a 45 ACP they don't get smaller. A 9 may get bigger.
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I have an SR40C and my friend has an SR9C. I don't think you could go wrong with either one - they're basically the same gun. In my opinion their recoil is similar with the 40 having more of a "push" and the 9 a little more "snap". 9mm ammo is less expensive and still considered an adequate round. the ballistics of the 40 is considered better, but in the end shot placement is still the key. If ballistics and use by inexperienced shooters is your biggest goal, you might want to consider a .357 LCR or SP101 and simply shoot 38 specials when someone inexperienced or recoil sensitive uses it. It's hard to "limp wrist" a revolver and the ballistics of the .357 is superior to the others (shot placement is still key).
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I have an SR40C and my friend has an SR9C. I don't think you could go wrong with either one - they're basically the same gun. In my opinion their recoil is similar with the 40 having more of a "push" and the 9 a little more "snap". 9mm ammo is less expensive and still considered an adequate round. the ballistics of the 40 is considered better, but in the end shot placement is still the key. If ballistics and use by inexperienced shooters is your biggest goal, you might want to consider a .357 LCR or SP101 and simply shoot 38 specials when someone inexperienced or recoil sensitive uses it. It's hard to "limp wrist" a revolver and the ballistics of the .357 is superior to the others (shot placement is still key).
I agree that shot placement is key. More practice and maybe practice using a light/laser at night with defense ammo. There might be a scenario that comes along requiring night use. That should be fun too.
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Hp bullets do not flatten or open up when hitting hard surfaces, Yes they may deform a tad. HP bullets open from hydro-lick force ( water or body fluids in the cavity )
You would be amazed at how much sheet rock a 9 mill will go through.
The 40 is by far a faster fight stopper, but as been said it has it's share of recoil.
For the family I think the 9 mill would probly suite you better. No use expecting someone to use a pistol they may be a little shy of. 40 has a muzzle blast and some recoil unless you tame it down a bit. ( reloading ) then your back to a 9 as for stopping power.
Go for the biggest hole you can make with the best suitable round for you and the family.
We use a 45 ACP they don't get smaller. A 9 may get bigger.
I'll probably use the Hornady Critical Defense ammo or Gold Dot. I've read up on a lot of tests with hollow points, in some cases appear to clog with clothing and come apart on targets with tissue. Gold Dot, Federal, Winchester and Hornady have good ammo for defense. These hold up good during the tests in American Rifleman. I've always had very good results with Hornady. Burn clean for reliable cycling during extended shooting.
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I'll probably use the Hornady Critical Defense ammo or Gold Dot. I've read up on a lot of tests with hollow points, in some cases appear to clog with clothing and come apart on targets with tissue. Gold Dot, Federal, Winchester and Hornady have good ammo for defense. These hold up good during the tests in American Rifleman. I've always had very good results with Hornady. Burn clean for reliable cycling during extended shooting.
I appreciate all the good points of view. I'm glad I started using this forum. Hard to find info about this subject, getting the women in my house to use a firearm they're not afraid of.
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I'm leaning to a 9mm because I want my Daughters and Wife to be able to handle a pistol on a range and defensive situations too if necessary.
You're leaning right as far as I'm concerned and allowing for all the considerations you list. But then I'm a 9mm guy from the git go. I had a 40 cal, and it was ok, but I went back to the 9mm .. and for what I consider to be great reasons. Ammunition universally available just about anywhere in the world ... and cheap in comparison. The recoil is quite manageable for most shooters ... even most women and young beginners. Plus the 9mm is used and has been used world wide for many decades and recent improvements in both bullet construction and ballistics mean the cartridge is more than adequate.

One issue I didn't notice anyone mentioning ... racking the slide! Some find racking a slide extremely difficult and some find it impossible. You want to make sure everyone you have in mind that may be using the gun will be able to manage the slide racking. If that turns out to be a problem I have a different suggestion.

The 40 and the 10mm have their place and they're great rounds ... but I'll stick to the 9mm for here and now.
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For home defense i went with the SR40, with its full size and weight the recoil is not bad.
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There is some question about the future availability of .327 or .32 rounds, but I am now a huge fan of the SP101 in .327 magnum.

We just shot ours today for the first time. My wife does not like to rack a slide or worry about malfunctions.

But, here is the beauty of the .327 magnum.

* She absolutely enjoyed shooting the .32 S&W Longs out of it; she can practice with it and not develop recoil sensitivity problems
* She can load it with .32H&R magnums and not have too much more recoil than the S&W longs.
* It holds 6 rounds versus 5 in the LCR or J-frames.
* It is small enough for her to carry in a fanny pack should she decide to get her CC permit.
* Very little worry about malfunctions; and no worry about racking slides

You might want to see if your wife or daughter could hold one or even rent one at a range. I am now a huge fan of this gun and caliber.

If you still want to get an SR, I'd go with the SR9c. I like mine, and my 17 year old daughter likes it too.
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9. 40 sucks. Just my opinion though.

I can't shoot 40 to save my life. Can't get used to the snappy feeling. And I"m a big dude. 6-1 290. Not a weakling. I'll take a 45, 9 or 44 anyday before a 40.

Here was my reasoning for going 9. At the time there was no sr40c. 9 is cheaper. I can practice more. Now that I reload. It's even cheaper. Shot placement is what counts. When it comes to 9 or 40. Tossup IMO. 9 just wins out in my book.
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I have both 9mm & 40sw; both are fine. The 9mm w/124gr is sufficient for home protection; I know that Federal has reduced recoil loads...
Your female family members will like shooting the 9mm better; use 115gr jacketed. You will find that the 9mm rounds are cheaper; I like the P95...
I own both pistols, let them try both and see what they think.
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as others said, both great pistols, I have both. My wife has trouble racking the slide for that first round on the sr9, and the sr40 is just a bit tougher, keep this in mind also.
I keep my gp100 357 with 38's by her side of the bed, just pull the trigger !!
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