High round count CCW'sThis is a discussion on High round count CCW's within the Ruger Pistols forums, part of the Pistol & Revolver Forum category; I got that same kinda explanation about using only ammo manufactured to those standards when I sent my sr9c in for a couple of problems ...  |
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August 21st, 2012, 11:51 AM
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I got that same kinda explanation about using only ammo manufactured to those standards when I sent my sr9c in for a couple of problems from the start. Yeah...I kinda got a lemon. But as I said in an earlier thread, they made it 100%. I just wanna keep it that way.
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August 21st, 2012, 01:26 PM
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#17 | | Conserviberalitarian
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Originally Posted by Scruz91 Ok well points go to jlh820 for bringing a safety issue to light. I like my hands. How am I supposed to go shooting with no hand?!? | Scruz91, I was referring to some issues with Beretta 92's in Iraq and Afghanistan. I've never heard of an SR9c/SR40c blowing up. The Beretta issue was resolved by replacing the steel guide rods with polymer ones. But still, I leave factory parts alone unless there's a real good reason to change them.
Last edited by jlh820; August 21st, 2012 at 01:41 PM.
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August 21st, 2012, 01:42 PM
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Well in theory, couldnt the same thing happen if i were to switch the poly guiderod for a SS one in my sr9c? Maybe I'm misunderstanding how the SS rod caused the failure...Could you clarify?
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August 21st, 2012, 01:49 PM
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#19 | | Conserviberalitarian
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Originally Posted by Scruz91 Well in theory, couldnt the same thing happen if i were to switch the poly guiderod for a SS one in my sr9c? Maybe I'm misunderstanding how the SS rod caused the failure...Could you clarify? | I suppose it's not impossible, but the top of slide on a Beretta 92 is open, exposing it to sand and dirt. It's harder for dirt to get into an SR9c. I personally only would replace a plastic one with steel as I said before, to add more weight to the muzzle end. I'm not trying to say steel rods are bad, but my point is IMO the plastic ones work just as well.
I don't have the reference for the Beretta 92 info. If I find it, I'll post it.
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August 21st, 2012, 01:55 PM
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#20 | | Conserviberalitarian
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Scruz91, here's a link to an old thread I started that has some info on the Beretta problem. I believe there are several posts, but specifically look at post #7. New toy - Beretta 92FS |
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August 21st, 2012, 02:10 PM
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Well I read through the post...and for starters, I want your 92.
But back on topic, I guess what I'll do is just buy another guiderod assembly direct from Ruger as a spare. That way, if the original fails, it'll still be using what the gun was designed around. Thanks for the info!
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August 21st, 2012, 02:31 PM
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#22 | | Conserviberalitarian
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Originally Posted by Scruz91 Well I read through the post...and for starters, I want your 92.
But back on topic, I guess what I'll do is just buy another guiderod assembly direct from Ruger as a spare. That way, if the original fails, it'll still be using what the gun was designed around. Thanks for the info! | No problem and it sounds like a good plan. And no, you can't have my 92FS! I've never seen another one like it, but thanks for the envy! |
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August 21st, 2012, 02:41 PM
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You should know that a Ruger is going to last...it has a lifetime warranty. I feel that my LC9 is going to last me as long as I am able to shoot it.
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August 21st, 2012, 03:11 PM
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#24 | | Moderator
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I have owned my Sp101 for several years and it goes to the range with every trip so I do have a few thousand rounds thru it. Still as tight as ever. I know it isn't a case shucker but it works for me.
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August 21st, 2012, 03:38 PM
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I guess you also need to define what you consider a high round count. Is 10K high, 50K, 100K? Chuck Hawks has a review of a Ruger Security Six where he mentions (anecdotal) reference to range rentals with 1.4M rounds.
I know in the Canadian forces we shot Hi-Powers that easily had in excess of 100K rounds through them. Sure, they were rebuilt and maintained by professional armorers but everyone expects to replace some parts over time so I don't count that sort of thing agains any firearm. There must be 1911's, and Sig P226's in US forces arsenals that have equally or even greater round counts down them.
So even if shooting several thousands of rounds a year out of any given handgun, I'd expect anything worth owning in the first place to last many decades. Unless of course you are prone to "experimenting" with insanely hot loads or something.
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August 21st, 2012, 07:23 PM
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I agree with everyone's posts here that modern firearms are suppose to last thousands if not hundreds of thousands of rounds with few problems if you properly clean and maintain your firearm.
Once in great while there will be a small number of firearms that gets out there and are lemons, however any well known gun manufacturer will gladly correct the issues as quickly as possible.
I personally clean my firearms every time I take them to the range. I polish the bore once a year maybe depending on how it looks. And I look at my CCW every week to make sure it doesn't have any lint, dirt or rust anywhere on it and that it is properly lubed and ready to be used. I also rotate that mags that I keep in my CCW.
My preferred cleaners and lubricants are the Wilson Combat Products, I use them on all of my firearms and I am very satisfied with them. Just find a product that you like or is recommended to you and use it.
Be assured that any quality firearm is going to stand the test of time and rounds.
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August 22nd, 2012, 12:05 AM
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I thought about replacing guide rod on SR pistols and LC9 with steel ones but decided not to because i would rather replace a guide rod when and if i need one than taking a chance on a steel one wearing the hole in the slide out of shape. The steel one might not cause wear, but it was designed for a nylon one, and the only one that shoes wear is the LC9 and i ordered 2 extra ones at $2.00 each for it. A properly cared for SR pistol should last a lifetime.
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August 22nd, 2012, 02:18 AM
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But, the same is not true for many of the "micro" pistols.......I have heard a lot of the new micro 9mm's and .380's are "carry lots shoot little" guns. Don't quote me but a couple people I have talked to have said the Kel-Tec 9mm's don't have much of a life span, as far as round count.
IIRC, the Kel Tec P-11 has a "lifespan" of 6500 rounds. However, anything breaks or wears out, KT will cheerfully and quickly replace it. My P-11 has a couple thousand rounds through it and is still going strong.
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August 23rd, 2012, 07:19 AM
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I feel much better about shooting my future carry gun on a weekly basis now. I always knew Ruger made "over-built" weapons but after dealing with its multiple failures at the very beginning, it just made me nervous about its long term durability. But I guess it doesnt really matter as long as Ruger continues to stand behind its products.
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September 3rd, 2012, 05:28 AM
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I have an old. beat up Glock with thousands of rounds that I put through it, IDK about the previous owners. I consider it the most reliable one I have. Miss Elsie Pea has 665 through her, and I plan to keep the round count down as low as I can. But I have to put her through the paces once in awhile just to keep her frame lubed.
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