SR9c Trigger not resettingThis is a discussion on SR9c Trigger not resetting within the Ruger Pistols forums, part of the Pistol & Revolver Forum category; I am having the same problems with my new SR9c. New gun, field stripped and cleaned/oiled (very lightly then wiped) including striker bar and channel.
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October 7th, 2012, 01:39 AM
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#16 |
Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Sedona, AZ
Posts: 13
| I am seeing the same thing
I am having the same problems with my new SR9c. New gun, field stripped and cleaned/oiled (very lightly then wiped) including striker bar and channel.
This happened once early on (during the first few hundred rounds). After firing normally, spent shell ejected properly and a new round was chambered, but the trigger did not reset. When I hand-cycled, the round ejected normally and the gun would then fire but the ejected (still live) round had a very slight dimple in the primer. Cleaned the gun very well after this happened. Thought this was a fluke.
This weekend, went out and shot another 250 rounds (total of 500 rounds through the gun now) and it was happening much more frequently, sometimes 2 times in a 10rd mag. Then a few mags with no issues, then again. Sometimes 2 consecutive times (bang, no trigger reset, manual cycle/eject, bang, no trigger reset). Inspected all of the ejected live rounds and all had a very slight dimple in the primer. All fired normally when loaded into the top of a magazine. The ammo I have used so far are:
Qty Ammo Notes
100 Winchester 115gr FMJ Shot & ejected well, had one failure to reset trigger
100 Federal Champion 115gr FMJ (Wal-Mart) Shot & ejected well, a few upward ejections
50 Wolf Performance 115gr FMJ Steel Case Shot well, some ejected upwards
100 Federal Champion 115gr FMJ (Wal-Mart) Experienced several trigger reset issues
50 Wolf Performance 115gr FMJ Steel Case Experienced several trigger reset issues
100 Winchester 115gr FMJ Experienced several trigger reset issues
This has me very concerned. I am going to field strip and clean again, including stiker bar and channel. I have not cleaned anything in the frame (except wiping around the bits that are accessible at the top) as I don't have a procedure for doing this. Could something in the trigger mechanism be dirty and in need of cleaning?
Thanks,
OB
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October 7th, 2012, 05:55 AM
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Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Texas
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I have had my SR9C for almost 1 year and last week when I was shooting a box of 50 rounds it failed to reset on the last 6 rounds. I could not get it to reset at all until I disassembled it and gave it a quick cleaning. IMO, whether it is clean or dirty, it should never fail to reset. In a critical situation, it is unacceptable for a weapon to fail.
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October 7th, 2012, 06:26 AM
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Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: St. Louis
Posts: 2,211
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I had a scare with this & it was my fault. On re-assembly, I did not follow the Ruger video & failed to reset the trigger like they show & upon testing after finishing, it did not reset. Someone pointed out to me this mistake can bend the trigger bar slightly. I took it apart & put it back together the rightbway & all is well. WATCH THE FREE VIDEOS, they are worth it.
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October 7th, 2012, 08:40 AM
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Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Sedona, AZ
Posts: 13
| Yep
Yep followed the videos to the "T" on each cleaning (3 previous to today; one out of the box and one after each shooting). Cleaned her up again real good this morning and will give it another go, unfortunately have to wait until next weekend. I did pay special attention to cleaning in the upper frame area. There was a lot of powder residue on and behind the trigger bar (between it and the side wall). Was able to get into that space with a coffee filter and some solvent, the fit was very tight (trigger bar pretty much touching the side wall).
OB
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October 7th, 2012, 12:30 PM
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Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: MN
Posts: 1,521
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Originally Posted by joeah I have had my SR9C for almost 1 year and last week when I was shooting a box of 50 rounds it failed to reset on the last 6 rounds. I could not get it to reset at all until I disassembled it and gave it a quick cleaning. IMO, whether it is clean or dirty, it should never fail to reset. In a critical situation, it is unacceptable for a weapon to fail. | Then you need to get rid of the SR9c cuz if you don't keep it clean behind the trigger bar, it WILL FAIL TO RESET.
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October 7th, 2012, 12:51 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Ohio
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I sent my SR9c back to Ruger and they replaced the trigger group. When I got the gun back it functioned flawlessly but my trust in it was already shaken. Since I purchased the firearm for concealed carry and not just as another range toy. I replaced it with a firearm I could trust.
That being said I don't look down on Ruger for the issue. Sometimes shit happens. However my faith in this particular firearm was had shaken my faith in it too much to trust it with my life.
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October 8th, 2012, 06:37 AM
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Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Sedona, AZ
Posts: 13
| That could be my issue Quote:
Originally Posted by mndoggie Then you need to get rid of the SR9c cuz if you don't keep it clean behind the trigger bar, it WILL FAIL TO RESET. | That may make a lot of sense, especially since my issue went from happening once in my first several hundred rounds to 1-2 in nearly every magazine. I had never cleaned back there because the videos don't cover it. I will see if this cleaning resolves the situation, if not it's back to Ruger.
OB
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October 8th, 2012, 07:05 AM
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Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Missouri
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What videos are you guys talking about?
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October 8th, 2012, 07:42 AM
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Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Sedona, AZ
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Originally Posted by Kenny Lee What videos are you guys talking about? | On Ruger.com on the "Extras" page of the SR9c web page. There are 3 videos: disassembly, cleaning and re-assembly.
OB
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October 8th, 2012, 08:06 AM
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Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: MN
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I don't know what the videos show. I'm guessing they show only a field strip. Removing and even possibly cleaning behind the trigger bar are not normal field stripping items. They require tools that aren't normally carried.
IMHO firearms need more than just an occaisional field strip to keep functioning.
Just like your cars need more than an oil change. Some people can do that at home, others take it to their mechanic.
Not everybody has the skills/tools to go beyond a field strip. If you aren't comfortable doing more, take it to a gunsmith.
My car manual shows only the minimum end user serviceable items. The firearm manuals are similar.
Buying a firearm and never doing any more maintenance beyond what can be done in a field strip action will not result in a firearm that is ultimately dependable in my opinion. I don't care what brand we are talking about.
Last edited by mndoggie; October 8th, 2012 at 09:03 AM.
Reason: spelling
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October 8th, 2012, 08:33 AM
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Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: St. Louis
Posts: 2,211
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Originally Posted by mndoggie I don't know what the videos show. I'm guessing they show only a field strip. Removing and even possibly cleaning behind the trigger bar are not normal field stripping items. They require tools that aren't normally carried.
IMHO firearms need more than just an occaisional field strip to keep functioning.
Just like your cars need more than an oil change. Some people can do that at home, others take it to their mechanic.
Not everybody has the skills/tools to go beyond a field strip. If you aren't comfortable doing more, take it to a gunsmith.
My car manual shows only the minimum end user serviceable items. The firearm manuals are similar.
Buying a firearm and never doing any more mainanence beyond what can be done in a field strip action will not result in a firearm that is ultimately dependable in my opinion. I don't care what brand we are talking about. | The Ruger video also shows removing the striker. I use Gun Scrubber to blast residue out of those hard to reach areas. It works well.
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October 8th, 2012, 05:42 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Michigan
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I had trigger reset issues the last 3 times out with mine at the range. I thoroughly cleaned it every time and the trigger would still fail to reset.
I finally contacted Ruger and shipped it to them. I dropped it off on September 25th and picked it up on October 5th. I was without it for only 10 days. They replaced the trigger bar reset and fired 40 rounds through it without any recorded problems.
I have not been to the range yet since the repair, but I can say I am very satisfied with Ruger's Customer Service! The turn-a-round was within the time they informed me it would be and they paid for everything. They even included a cleaning towel as a token of my support. I am happy to see a company stand behind the products they build.
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October 9th, 2012, 04:35 PM
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Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Sedona, AZ
Posts: 13
| Back to Prescott
Well I cleaned the %&$^%## out of that puppy (including between the trigger bar and outer wall) and went shooting today. Shot 140 rounds and the trigger failed to reset 3 times, about evenly spaced (about once every 4 magazines). Called Ruger, explained the issue, they were very nice and bottom line it's going back to Prescott for some tweaking. Hope she comes home clean, mean and ready to rip!
OB
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October 18th, 2012, 05:00 PM
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Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Sedona, AZ
Posts: 13
| Got her back in 1 week
Well exactly 7 days after shipping, got my SR9c back today. Under "Additional Notes" they put "ITEM REPLACED: TRIGGER BAR RESET", "ITEMS REPAIRED: N/A". Trigger bar reset is #44 on the parts list in the manual. Will bring her to the range this weekend and put a few hundred rounds through to see if this did the trick. Pretty fast turnaround!
OB
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October 20th, 2012, 10:32 AM
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Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Sedona, AZ
Posts: 13
| No failures to reset yet
Went to the range today and put 140 rounds through with my father-in-law. Did not experience any failures to reset the trigger. Will continue to monitor. One odd thing, 3x when my father-in-law was shooting the SR9c, he had failures to *eject* - 1 stovepipe and 2 stuck in the chamber. I didn't experience any FTEs in all of the rounds I shot (most) - could it be the way he was holding the gun?
Anyways I am optimistic that Ruger nailed the failure to reset the trigger issue with the new trigger bar reset - another couple hundred rounds and I will call it fixed.
OB
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