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Old January 2nd, 2012, 04:16 AM   #1
 
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Question LC9 Modifications

I see that Galloway Precision offers a mod for the long trigger pull on the LC9 by installing a new trigger bar, and also a new hammer. My question is “if you have a problem with your gun not related to the modifications you did” and you send it back to Ruger for repair. Will Ruger still honor (warranty) and not charge you for repair work on the gun?



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They might, but if you send in a modified gun for a problem unrelated to the modification you will get it back absent your modification (e.g. restored to factory specs), or so I've been told.

This is just me, but I do not modify any self defense gun I carry (revolver grips are an exception). I learn to shoot them as they come from the factory b/c I don't want to chance that something might not work when I need it the most. Besides, if it needs modification I would probably buy another brand/model. Range guns are another story.

Just my two cents worth and not intended to influnce others here.
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Thanks so much Old Cop. I was thinking the same thing as you, but just thought I would get a second opinion. You know the old saying...Leave well enough alone. LOL
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Unless its just a range shooter or hunter,the ramifications of modifications on a self defense gun used in deadly physical force will rear its ugly head at any Grand jury inquiry and trials of self defense.Find a gun thast works to your satisfaction out of the box from manufacturer.
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They might, but if you send in a modified gun for a problem unrelated to the modification you will get it back absent your modification (e.g. restored to factory specs), or so I've been told.

This is just me, but I do not modify any self defense gun I carry (revolver grips are an exception). I learn to shoot them as they come from the factory b/c I don't want to chance that something might not work when I need it the most. Besides, if it needs modification I would probably buy another brand/model. Range guns are another story.

Just my two cents worth and not intended to influnce others here.
This sounds very logical, not to mention do any of us really need to be explaining to the local prosecutor how we took a stock gun and gave it a "hair" trigger (this is especially the case if the issue is an ND vs. an SD shoot)??
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I don't think we are talking about "hair triggers" here. I can't see what difference it would make if your trigger has been improved if you are involved in a self defense shooting. One has to assume you shot the perp intentionally in order to defend yourself ....... unless you are going to claim some sort of "the gun went off" story.
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I see that Galloway Precision offers a mod for the long trigger pull on the LC9 by installing a new trigger bar, and also a new hammer. My question is “if you have a problem with your gun not related to the modifications you did” and you send it back to Ruger for repair. Will Ruger still honor (warranty) and not charge you for repair work on the gun?
If you need to return your LC9 to Ruger for warranty work (can't imagine the what for) then I would return it to stock condition prior to shipping, i.e. put the magazine safety back in, put a non modified LCI back in, take off any grips (they will remove them to test fire) and put back in your stock hammer and trigger bar.

Yep, not sure how one could give a DAO pistol a "hair trigger"? we should probably stick to the facts from people who own a modified LC9.
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I have gotten used to the trigger pull on my LC9 and will probably leave well enought alone. After all it is a close range defensive weapon and not designed for precise target shooting. Plus if I do need to ever send it back to Ruger all I have to do is slip off the Hogue grip and I am good to go.
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I agree with tgwillard. I wouldnt want to change it into something it wasnt intended to be. Nice grips, laser sight maybe. All easy to remove before servicing.
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Just to offer a different opinion; my department issues M&P's with Apex trigger kits installed. We investigated the matter exhaustively with the state Attorney General's office and never found a single instance, with LEO's or the general public, of anyone ever being found culpable or in any other way at fault because of a modified weapon using aftermarket parts where the shooting itself was justified. Ditto that with using reloaded ammunition for defensive purposes. We could not find another state where that was true either, but with far less research involved. I wouldn't weld two Remington 870's together and then mount them to an AR-15 on the roof of my SUV, but putting a well tested part by a reputable company in my gun and then using it for defense would not concern me.
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Let's hope that puts those myths to rest. I doubt it.
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Well, go on GlockTalk and ask Massad Ayoob himself. He is the one to ask.
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Unless its just a range shooter or hunter,the ramifications of modifications on a self defense gun used in deadly physical force will rear its ugly head at any Grand jury inquiry and trials of self defense.Find a gun thast works to your satisfaction out of the box from manufacturer.
I've heard that "story" dozens of times and not once could a poster come up with a link to a actual case where it made a difference. Lots of links to other people's amateur lawyering were posted though.

Got any links to back that up with hard facts?
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Would you really want to take that chance ? Unfortunatley there is no site that would give you the Prosecutors point of veiw ! When its too late its too late.
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Would you really want to take that chance ? Unfortunatley there is no site that would give you the Prosecutors point of veiw ! When its too late its too late.
Yup, I would. The chances of having to ever discharge my CC firearm for self defense are extremely low to begin with.

Add to that, the chances of having a prosecutor/grandjury say that a removed mag disconnect meant that I could not defend myself is even less of a chance.

Especially in light of the fact that there is no doucmented evidence that it has ever been an issue in the real world..
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