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Old March 25th, 2011, 07:54 PM   #46
 
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I did like was mentioned here, I carried it around for a week, both safety on
and off, snap caps in the gun only, pulling it in and out of the IWB holster. In
different clothes. Never did the trigger pull itself. I know there are no
guarentees in life, but I feel much more confident now.

I keep the safety on because I can just see a time when for some silly reason the safety switched to on and I think it is off. Then I am dead.

Much safer to assume it is on, and learn and practice with switching it off.
Same way in the gun vault. Cocked and locked, one in the chamber. gun vault beep turned off. Silent and deadly.

The gun is always loaded. Loaded or not. ALWAYS!!!
Never point at anything you don't want to shoot.
Keep your finger off the trigger until ready to shoot.
Keep aware of your target and what is behind it.

Balance safety with readyness. Be aware of your surroundings. Don't act like
a victim around preditors.

If you try to put your gun in the holster with your finger on the trigger you will
shoot yourself in the foot or worse. Please don't do this!!!




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Old March 25th, 2011, 08:31 PM   #47
 
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Now that was downright dumb. He should of just left.....
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Since that video showed up,will someone explain how a Glock can fire so easy? Never mind the obvious stupidity of having a loaded firearm in a classroom.

Same question as before. The safety is in the center of the trigger. I have heard of at least three times of a policeman managing to unintentionally fire a Glock. So does the trigger pull that easy and that short?
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Wow - lots of great feedback folks - appreciate it - liked the attached article from mndoggie -in response to crabbys44, the SR9c is my first semi auto pistol - used revolvers prior to that and when I first got my SR9c it discharged with my finger resting on the trigger but not pulling the trigger (manual safety was off) - Ruger replaced the trigger bar reset and have had no prpoblems since - guess my question was on the SR9c, as long as I keep my finger off the trigger is it impossible for a round to fire with one in the chamber - after looking at the manual again (I know - RTFM) and reading all your replies, it sounds like because of the striker blocker, even if the manual safety is off, it's impossible for the striker to fire a round even if dropped or bumped - if that's the case I see no reason not to carry one in the chamber. Thanks again!
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Another perspective on this from a Suarez International instructor. Presented for your consideration.

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Either carry with a round chambered or don't carry. You are not going to have time to rack the slide if you need to use your gun.
Yep one in the pipe thumb safety engaged!
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SR9C CCW "one in the pipe"

Hello, I am a new member to the Ruger forum. I purchased an SR9C 3 months ago and plan on using it for CCW. I purchased a CCW holster, "inside the waistband" from The Holster Store. The holster is well made, and there is no contact with the safety lever when holstering the weapon. I am most likely not going to keep a round chambered as I am pretty quick at drawing the piece and "chambering" a round. I take CCW very seriously and hopefully will never have to put into reality what I practice on a continuous basis. I would say if you plan on CCW with "one in the pipe" choose a holster that keeps clear of the safety lever and holds the weapon securely under most conditions you plan on running into. Good luck!!! and "practice, practice, practice" !!!
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i at first carried with without one in the pipe but after watching real world videos of people trying to rack the slide and getting killed because they could not because of the adrenalin rush. i changed my mind i carry at all times with one in the pipe ready to go. i have carried a xdm most of the time ready to go so when i carry my sr9c its one in the pipe with the safety off and follow all the safety rules . every second counts when it comes to protecting myself and my family. there are a lot of decisions to be made in a hurry and that's one i do not have to worry about.
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Assuming that you will have time to rack the slide is truly a dangerous attitude; much the same as the CCW permit holder who leaves home without his/her weapon because he doesn't "forsee anything happening". You truly can't predict what type of situations you will be faced with, nor can you predict what your assailants reaction be. I can't see carrying (on duty or off) a weapon without a round in the chamber, because my options would be limited by my own unpreparedness.
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Thanks again folks - carrying with one in the pipe now - in a pancake holster that grips it tight and covers the trigger and but not the manual safety.
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A gun without a round in the chamber is just a club.
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If you think about it you are carrying your .38 with one in the chamber, it's no different if you practice gun safety. if you carry without having one in the chamber you might as well not carry the weapon. (unless you are Barney Fife).
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Since that video showed up,will someone explain how a Glock can fire so easy? Never mind the obvious stupidity of having a loaded firearm in a classroom.

Same question as before. The safety is in the center of the trigger. I have heard of at least three times of a policeman managing to unintentionally fire a Glock. So does the trigger pull that easy and that short?
Well there are many "light trigger" kits for glock and any other pistol. I like the
"light" trigger on my SR9c, so I also appreciate the manual safety.

He checked and announced that the glock was empty. So he obviously thought
that the gun was empty. Isn't that always the case with an AD??
If his finger was on the trigger when holstering, or more likely, a wad of
shirt tail or pants stuck into the trigger guard as he was inserting it into
the holster.

Be careful, be safe.
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Good arguements.

Has no one had a round not chamber racking a slide?

If it is already back and a fresh mag inserted,the slide release is a different story.

If the weapon is a 1911 it was designed for cocked and locked carry.

If it a P-90,P-95,etc double action on the first shot. It has a firing pin block safety as well as the long trigger pull. Probably the same on say an LCP.

Would worry me on say a Glock since many reports of police shooting them selves,so is the trigger that easy to pull and the safety is in the middle of the trigger? Could you hit both safety and trigger just putting the weapon into a holster?
"many reports of police shooting themselves"...

"many" is kind of vague. either way, that's a result of poor training and not keeping their finger off the trigger... NOT the gun design.

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I like having a round in the chamber and the thumb safety on. I'm just more comfortable that way. The SR9c is such a well designed gun that one would have to be very careless to have an accidental discharge, even carrying with the thumb safety off.

Still, I like to keep mine on. The fraction of a second it would take to disengage the thumb safety while drawing the pistol seems negligible to me. With enough practice, it will become muscle memory and not matter at all.
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