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Old March 11th, 2011, 11:47 AM   #16
 
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Good morning folks - been away from the forum since December - missed a lot of good feedback I'm sure. For those out there who carry an SR9c (had mine since September) how many of you carry it with a round chambered but the manual safety on? I want to be prepared, especially in scenarios where there is a need for quiet where I don't have to rack the slide, but common sense and experience with my SR9c prevents me from doing that. Instead, so far I just carry a S&W 38sp J frame as a back up for any time I don't want to have to rack the slide first. Thoughts?
I'm siding with the majority of the other posters. If you are not comfortable with a round in the chamber, is it a matter of training or not being comfortable with the gun?

What kind of "experience" did you have that made it "common sense" to carry with an empty chamber, if you don't mind my asking?

With training, 1911 guys, and gals, carry cocked and locked with 100% confidence. The Glock and XDs have very light triggers (mostly) and are carried loaded. It was mentioned elsewhere that a good holster covers the trigger guard. AD keeping your finger off the trigger until you're ready to fire should be second nature if you are carrying.

I was in the Marine Corps when we had to carry the .45 without a round in the chamber. Then when the suicide bomber drove into the living quarters of the Marines in Beirut, everyone was essentially unarmed. There's a lot more to the story than that, but one of the end results was the Corps issued a MCO (Marine Corps Order), think along the lines of a command from God, that dictated rifles and pistols would be carried with a round chambered, safety on.



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Old March 11th, 2011, 03:56 PM   #17
 
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There is an eye opening youtube of a guy that is robbed. He has a semi auto without one in the chamber. When you go into fight or flight mode, you lose all of your fine muscle control. He was unable to rack the gun, and was shot and killed. The last thing the robber did was take the gun out of his hands.

Keep one in the chamber. If you are going to keep the safety on, then practice alot or just leave the safety off. A good holster will cover the trigger guard and prevent an AD.

The only issue with my SR9c is the light trigger pull compared to the glock, so I practice using the safety a lot.

If you are afraid to keep one in the chamber, just carry a ball pien hammer is what my CPL instructor says..... because a gun without a bullet in the chamber is just a $500 hammer.
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FWIW the one time a burglar came into my house I had no difficulty chambering a round into my Beretta Model 84 (.380). He took off like a bat out of H***.
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I carry mine with a round chambered and safety off.
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One in the chamber, ten in the magazine with the safety on.

And as it was mentioned earlier, the indicator does not pop up that high.
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Cocked and locked!
Agree!
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Same as the majority of the people here, carry with one in the pipe with the safety on.

I try to take at least 15-20min a day and practice my draw and thumbing the safety off with a mag full of snap caps. Helps keep me used to disengaging the safety so when I get the weapon to the ready it's all business.
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It makes no sense what-so-ever to carry without a round chambered whether CCW, LEO, or military. Keep your finger out of the trigger guard until you decide that you must shoot. Whether you engage the safety or not is your choice. I have an assortment of semi-auto pistols both DAO or DA/SA and the SR9c is the only one that has a manual safety. The only reason that I am considering carrying with the safety engaged is that it is the lightest trigger pull of any of my handguns in DA. In all of my other pistos I would carry in condition 1, chambered and no safety.
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Virtually every striker fired handgun manufactured today has a firing pin block safety. They also have various other safeties that are not overcome until the trigger travels a full range of motion. The SR9C even has a manual thumb safety which is overkill in my opinion.

It amazes me how media and society has taught people that guns are dangerous. So much so that people actually still fear the gun itself. People that lack a basic mechanical aptitude or basic engineering skills are always victim to their influence. Sometimes people with those skill sets are too because their message is that powerful. If there is a bullet in that chamber! That gun is unsafe and it could kill someone at anytime.

Hogwash. Modern firearms of this type simply don't go bang until the triggers are operated. Guns don't kill people. People kill people. It sickens me that manufacturers further complicate things by adding all these bogus safeties to make the sheeple "feel safer".

The fact is without the proper training with the weapon those super safe features will likely get most average gun owners killed in a high stress combat situation.

Keep it cocked, locked and ready to rock doc. Keep your booger hook off the bang switch until ready to fire and it will always be safe.
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19 + 1 in my SA Xdm 9... whats the point of not having one chambered... "Oh hi there Mr., could you wait for me to draw, rack my slide, and then aim before you attack"

I dont know personally about the safeties on the Ruger you are talking about so I cant comment on that, my XDm has a trigger safety and a grip safety which both have to be disengaged to fire the weapon... dont really see either of those being an issue in a holstered weapon and I would venture to say the Ruger is just as safe.
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Either carry with a round chambered or don't carry. You are not going to have time to rack the slide if you need to use your gun.
I do think you should carry with a round chambered, but please don' tell people not to carry if they don't. It does not take more than a second to chamber a round. Much better than no gun. People who feel uncomfortable should put a snap cap chambered and carry that way for a month to prove to yourself it's safe.
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Keep it cocked, locked and ready to rock doc. Keep your booger hook off the bang switch until ready to fire and it will always be safe.
That just about sums it up. I agree completely.
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Keep it cocked, locked and ready to rock
Is there another kind?, or I mean way?
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Like the majority...I carry my SR40 with one in the pipe and safety on.
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