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Old December 6th, 2010, 09:13 AM   #1
 
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SR9c dry firing - what gets damaged?

I've seen a multitude of posts saying not to dry fire without the magazine inserted or you'll damage your gun.

But I don't understand why? Come someone explain it to me?

What gets damaged? Why?

I've also read if you remove the Magazine Disconnect this doesn't apply. Is that true?

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Old December 6th, 2010, 09:42 AM   #2
 
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I've seen a multitude of posts saying not to dry fire without the magazine inserted or you'll damage your gun.

But I don't understand why? Come someone explain it to me?

What gets damaged? Why?

I've also read if you remove the Magazine Disconnect this doesn't apply. Is that true?

Thanks,
Hey crispy,

Welcome to the forum!

Here is the link to the SR9c owner's manual that speaks about "dry firing" of the pistol.

http://www.ruger.com/products/_manuals/srSeries.pdf

HTH,
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Lots of threads about this... to oversimplify and generalize, the Mag DC interfaces with the striker assembly and dry firing without the magazine apparently causes wear on these two components.

Have not heard nor seen anyone incurring parts breakage or damage to the point of a click-no-bang from dry-firing without the magazine but as boomer1's post indicates - there is a warning in the SR9 owner's manual against dry-firing w/o the magazine.

Removal of the Mag DC makes the issue moot but then you are getting into the realm of potential liability incurred from the intentional disabling of a factory "safety feature".
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Lots of threads about this... to oversimplify and generalize, the Mag DC interfaces with the striker assembly and dry firing without the magazine apparently causes wear on these two components.

Have not heard nor seen anyone incurring parts breakage or damage to the point of a click-no-bang from dry-firing without the magazine but as boomer1's post indicates - there is a warning in the SR9 owner's manual against dry-firing w/o the magazine.

Removal of the Mag DC makes the issue moot but then you are getting into the realm of potential liability incurred from the intentional disabling of a factory "safety feature".
Disabling what? Mine didn't come with one.
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I'm down with that.

A prosecutor might not be though...
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I was able to dry fire my P95 with no problems. It was a good pistol!!!
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The magazine disconnect blocks the striker when the magazine is not inserted. Instead of the striker going all the way forward, it gets hung up on the mag disconnect, which may cause damage.

You may remove the mag dc with no problems and then dry fire safely, but that is a personal choice because it may or may not be cause for liability in court.
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I dry-fire with two magazines loaded with dummy rounds. That lets me practice load, failure to fire, unload, and reload drills.
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Hey crispy,

Welcome to the forum!

Here is the link to the SR9c owner's manual that speaks about "dry firing" of the pistol.

http://www.ruger.com/products/_manuals/srSeries.pdf

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Understand and agree about not dry firing without the magazine in; however, my mag disconnect is wearing off the left rear corner of my mags. And, keeping the mag corner and mag disconnect lubed doesn't seem to help that much. I'm thinking about maybe removing the problem - that would also solve the dry firing w/o mag issues.

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I've seen a multitude of posts saying not to dry fire without the magazine inserted or you'll damage your gun.

But I don't understand why? Come someone explain it to me?

What gets damaged? Why?

I've also read if you remove the Magazine Disconnect this doesn't apply. Is that true?

Thanks,
I recently purchased an SR9c and did not know I was not supposed to dry fire without the magazine in. In fact, as I was looking for the right firearm for a CC option for me, quite often the employees of gun shops would demonstrate the different trigger pulls on the pistols and let me try it too. So after learning that I wasn't supposed to dry fire without the magazine in, I was curious, as well, to figure out what could get damaged. (I was worried that the tip of the firing pin was damaged and the cause of some misfires with Winchester 9mm ammo I bought at Walmart--it turns out the primers are extra hard on this ammo and there are other fixes for this)

I disassembled the firing mechanism and inspected the way the cartridge safety works. It appears that part of the firing pin shaft is wider (starting somewhere in the middle) and this catches on a little horseshoe shaped piece (the missing magazine safety).

My assessment is that, if the wide part of the shaft hitting the horseshoe piece wears out from too many dry fires (without a magazine), then the worst that could happen is the safety mechanism would fail. (I.E. eventually, you would be able to fire the weapon without a magazine inserted)

It doesn't look like it would affect normal use of the weapon. I think the end result is that they've warned you not to and they are covered legally should the mechanism ever fail due to wear on the pieces.

If you believe your weapon has been dry fired excessively without a magazine, you can inspect the firing mechanism and safety for wear and tear or take it in to someone qualified to assess the wear.
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