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Old July 18th, 2010, 03:21 PM   #1
 
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+P+ loads in a P95

the Ruger manual states that this piece can withstand +P loads, as it was designed for high pressure loads...but can this gun take the +p+ loads or would that be a little much on the barrel/assembly for this model? (i've already fired +p's out of it and it eats em up like a plate of greasy nachos, so that's not a issue)



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Old July 18th, 2010, 05:41 PM   #2
 
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Most manufacturers will not endorse +P+ as there are no SAAMI standards for +P+.
SAAMI standards specify many things about a cartridge, among them is the max chamber pressure for each particular cartridge.
So when you buy a +P+ cartridge, all you know for sure is that it is loaded to a higher chamber pressure than SAAMI specifies for +P. It could be just a little higher or it could be a lot higher. While a P95 will probably handle it fine, the gun when built was designed to safely handle cartridges made to SAAMI specifications.
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that's what it says in the manual...i appreciate the info, but what i really want to hear is some testing results...i.e- what manufacture, load type (hp, fmj, fmj range etc) and any unusual wear or malfunctions...i mean this kind of goes with my previous post about "best 9mm man stopper" and i know your going to have higher success with a round traveling faster and delivering more impact....
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To be real honest, if you need the +p+ you need a larger caliber. The tiny amount you will gain in the +p+ over the +p is not worth the additional cost.
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Agreed! Not worth the additional cost or the wear and tear on the pistol - P95 or most any other 9mm!

Once you get up to .380 or 9mm and above, the most important aspects are speed and accuracy. Shot placement trumps caliber any day once you get out of the little mouse rounds - and sometimes even with them!

One of the reasons I've chosen my 9mm self-defense pistols is because the low recoil makes followup shots faster with more potential for accuracy. This becomes especially important for multiple assailants.

If you don't think 9mm +P has enough power, go to a more powerful caliber. Personally I don't feel undergunned at all with 9mm, and I like the high capacity and ability to crank out accurate followup shots very quickly. I don't even use +P, my normal self-defense round is Federal HST or HydraShoks. Sometimes Gold Dots. Standard, not +P.

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To be real honest, if you need the +p+ you need a larger caliber. The tiny amount you will gain in the +p+ over the +p is not worth the additional cost.
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To be real honest, if you need the +p+ you need a larger caliber. The tiny amount you will gain in the +p+ over the +p is not worth the additional cost.
+1 What little you get in extra velocity vs the wear & tear on your wrist and your pistol's slide & frame is not worth it.

What are you shooting at that NEEDS that much velocity from a 9mm projectile?
Go get a .45 is you need that much more out of your pistol...
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my question is:


... why?

it's a 9mm, why on earth would someone want it to go even faster?

i agree with jay1958. my autos are always 9mm, for the same exact reason he mentions... and i too use only standard (non +p) gold dots, exclusively.

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... but what i really want to hear is some testing results...i.e- what manufacture, load type (hp, fmj, fmj range etc) and any unusual wear or malfunctions...
stakz ... I may be wrong, but I suspect that you'll be hard pressed to find the type of test results that you're looking for here. I follow the P95 threads pretty closely, and in the past 2-1/2 years I can't remember a discussion on this topic.
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btw....i have FULL FAITH in my 9mm...if i didn't think it was a tried and true self defense round, i would not have bought the gun...i was just wondering about the +p+ loads...i know a +p hp ( i use HS) is plenty enough pop to get the job done...but thz for the comments...this is a well informed forum...
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+p+ ammo have higher pressure loads then the +p , i would just stick with the +p loads that is satisfactory.

No need to up the ante cuz shot placement counts more then higher pressure.
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+1......no need to try to get .45 power out of a 9mm. I use the same logic with guys that handload nuclear power .357's, why not just buy a .41 or a .44 if more power is wanted or needed that badly.

As civilian shooters we have the option to choose our caliber of choice, unlike some LEO's and the military.

If you want a powerhouse auto round, check out a 10mm or a .38 Super.

+P+ 9mm is designed for LEO's who want the maximum stopping power if they are mandated to carry a 9mm. These are meant as "duty" rounds, a steady diet of them is not recommended.

The hottest 9mm made is the Hirtenberger, made for SMG's. It will literally beat most 9mm pistols to death in short order.
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My P95 handles +P+ loads well. Shoots accurately with them and hasn't fell apart yet.

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its cool...i found some golden saber +p 124g jhps that have 400ft lbs out of the barrel along with 1200fps...that's plenty of power and speed to do the job WITHOUT having to worry about breaking the piece....they feed and fire very well too....not malfunctions of any kind...

and yea...i know i cant tell exactly what the energy and velocity is of my gun firing these loads, but i trust the statistics given from midway...
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