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Old February 13th, 2017, 05:55 AM   #1
 
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Question LCP Custom vs LCP II trigger

Which do you think has the better trigger, the LCP Custom or the new LCP II?

I upgraded to the LCP Custom right before the LCP II was announced and as much as I love the new and improved LCP Custom over my Gen I LCP, I wonder if I missed anything with the LCP II.

Not being able to use the 7 round magazines in the LCP II is a bit of a deal breaker for me but I still have some interest in one. And though I've read on here that the 7 rounders can be used, just the Ruger warning saying not to is enough for me.

So, the trigger is really the only thing I'm concerned about here. Thoughts...



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Check Hickock's review
https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q...sp=1&qs=AS&sk=
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Watched that awhile back when it was released. He really doesn't make a solid choice of one over the other, but I always like his videos.

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I hope the Customs have a good trigger. My LCPII was sent to Prescott a little over a week ago. It's defective and un-repairable so it's being replaced. I asked for the Custom instead and they did have at least one in stock. So I should have a Custom by tomorrow afternoon and washing my hands of the LCPII's.
I had allot of problems with this LCPII. This was the 2nd trip back to Prescott. I do like the trigger but not at the expense of giving up safety.
I carried it for a short time in a wallet holster when I decided it's not worth taking a chance carrying a chambered round in a fully cocked semi auto with no trigger block safety and nothing more than a Trigger blade safety. That makes as much sense as carrying a old S/A revolver with the hammer fully cocked. I carried it some with a empty chamber but I wasn't comfortable carrying it for protection with an empty chamber. I really tried to like the LCPII but it just wasn't meant to be.
I'll run the Custom through it's paces and it proves to be reliable I might carry it once in awhile, probably more so in rainy weather or send it down the road.
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Redhawk, we hear you. You are not comfortable carrying the LCP II with one up the spout. I shared your concerns and before I carry it routinely with a loaded chamber, I decided I would carry it empty around the house, at my gun club etc., handle it a lot, practice drawing, carrying in my pocket in a secure holster, without a holster (which I would never do when loaded) and in a Sneaky Pete case. I have yet to accidentally trip that trigger. While it is a single action pistol, I would not say that it is the same as carrying a 1911 cocked and unlocked or a single action revolver with the hammer back. I would not feel safe carrying my 1911 cocked and unlocked or my Service-Six cocked. Those firearms have triggers in the 2-3 lb range with no take up, little travel and no hammer spring loading going on.

The LCP II does have that trigger blade safety which means you have to contact the center of the trigger to pull it. With the 1911 or the revolver in single action, any pressure on the outside edge of the trigger can cause it to go. When drawing a pistol, if your finger is to accidentally come in contact with the trigger it will likely be the edges of it. Also, the hammer on the LCP II is not fully reward. When you pull the trigger on the LCP II, first there's about 1/2" of take-up, then it stops and approx. 6 lb of pressure and 1/4" additional travel moves the hammer to its most rearward position and then drops the hammer. There is plenty of tactile feedback that you have in fact engaged the trigger. Compared to my 1911 and cocked revolver, which have no take-up and maybe 1/32" of travel (maybe less), and 2-3 lbs of pressure - - - well there is no comparison.

If I had handled my cocked and unlocked 1911 or my cocked revolver like I have this LCP II over the past month, drawing and holstering the gun, placing it in my range bag, in and out of my pocket etc, they most likely would have dropped their hammers. The LCP II's trigger feels and acts more like a Glock than a 1911 or a revolver in single action mode. In a holster that positively isolates the trigger, I think the LCP II is a safe pistol to carry with a loaded chamber. A firing pin block would have been nice and would protect it from the very, very unlikely issue of a faulty sear.

ps. Redhawk, I see where you purchased a Sig 238 to carry instead. Since that is also a single action with a 1911 type trigger, I think I would be more nervous carrying that than a LCP II. I see where that Uncle George guy won't build wallet holster for them either, for the same reasons. It is very easy for 1911 type pistols to have their safeties accidentally pushed off. If/when that safety is accidentally pushed off, you then have a true single action trigger, with no blade safety. I have a 1911 and when I carry it, I only carry it cocked and locked and in a holster with a thumb break strap that is positioned between the hammer and the firing pin. We all have our levels of comfort I guess.

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I have the LCP Custom. I have only dry fired the LCP II, not live fire. Based on my limited experience, I prefer the Custom.
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Only 10 votes total?

Anyone else want to chime in?
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I have recently shot the original, Custom and II. The Custom was my choice primarily because of reviews I read online. I can say that both the Custom and II have noticeably much better triggers than the original. In my opinion, the II had a slightly smoother trigger than the Custom. I'm willing to admit that I went with the Custom due to what I was hearing about safety concerns with the II. I'm not at all unhappy with my choice. I've already put about 300 rounds through my Custom.
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What safety concerns?

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What safety concerns?

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Some people are not comfortable carrying a pistol with a 6 lb trigger, a blade trigger safety, and 3/4 inch trigger travel with a loaded chamber. Issues that a secure holster and good trigger discipline mitigate.
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Thanks for the info. Never gave it a thought but I guess it is something to consider.

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Thanks for the info. Never gave it a thought but I guess it is something to consider.

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If you are not comfortable carrying a Glock, Kahr or a Shield without a manual safety, then the LCP II is not for you. If you plan on keeping your pistol in a holster that properly isolates the trigger and can keep you finger off the trigger when you draw, handle, or holster your pistol, you will be ok.
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Has anyone carried a loaded and chambered LCP Custom with a custom sized rubber grommet inserted behind the trigger for a safety, I see these rubber grommets are sold on EBay for the LCP's, I'm thinking of buying one if they make the pistol safer to carry in a pocket holster.
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Has anyone carried a loaded and chambered LCP Custom with a custom sized rubber grommet inserted behind the trigger for a safety, I see these rubber grommets are sold on EBay for the LCP's, I'm thinking of buying one if they make the pistol safer to carry in a pocket holster.
I don't see where those grommets are any better than just carrying your LCP with an empty chamber. It's a question of: Would you rather fumble with getting that grommet out or fumble to rack the slide when your life is in danger?

I think the best solution is to use a proper holster that positively isolates the trigger while you carry it in your pocket. Take a look at the BORAII kydex holster which isolates the trigger, allowing you to load and unload the chamber with the trigger completely protected.

KYDEX Pocket Holsters by BORAII Inc.

Also, so as not come off as a shill for BORAII holsters (which I do use) the Aegis Armory makes a similar holster that can be used for pocket carry, that will also be very safe and should alleviate concerns for carrying a pocket pistol with a decent trigger and no manual safety.

http://aegisarmory.us/shop/kydexhols...trigger-guard/

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Those grommets are for people that should not be carrying a gun. If you're not willing to carry chambered or use some cumbersome device like a grommet you shouldn't be carrying.

Buy a gun from a reputable manufacturer, buy a good holster that protects the trigger and you're good to go.

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