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Old February 5th, 2017, 04:23 AM   #1
 
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American Compact Recoil Guide Spring

Just purchased a brand new Compact in 45acp. During the initial field strip to clean the pistol the guide rod spring came apart! The guide rod is not broken and appears to be fine. Has anyone come across this issue yet? I did send Ruger an email about it yesterday to see what I need to do. It's the larger spring that goes into the slide end that's the problem with mine.


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Old February 5th, 2017, 05:48 AM   #2
 
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I'd suggest giving them a call tomorrow. I've noticed with email they will take longer to respond.
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I'll do that tomorrow and report back as to what they say


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Had the same thing happen to me on my RAPc 45. Spring comes off the end the guide rod. The guide rod looks like a captive or captured one. I called Ruger and CS sent me a new guide rod. Well new guide rod arrives, and its not the right one. Call Ruger CS back, this time they want the gun sent in to them.

Ship Gun off to Ruger, Ruger armoror calls me, says he spoke with the engineers and the guide rod on the RAPc 45 is not a captive or captured spring. Tech guy says he works the spring back on by depressing it on hes workbench.

My gun is do back today, so ill take a look at the guide rod. I think there is something wrong with the RAPc 45 guide rods, maybe the diameter at the end is not right which is allowing the spring to come off.
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Update! Spoke with Angie at Ruger this morning. She says they've been seeing a couple of these coming back in. She said it's not a "captured" spring. Hard to believe that.....but I digress. She is sending me e new one out tomorrow though. My issue is this, once you finally do get the spring back on, it's like a jack-n-the box from hell! Damn thing sometimes pops off before you can even get it back to the pistol for install. I had safety glasses on, thank goodness, but that damn spring got me right in the chin! So I had to step up the safety game a bit. On the second attempt I was wearing my Shoei street bike helmet, full face with the visor down. My wife thought I had lost my mind until that spring jumped the rod, ricochet's off the face shield, off the microwave, and straight into the kitchen sink! Recovered the spring and after the fourth try I got it installed back into the gun. You can't make this stuff up! Truly terrifying


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So I guess we will just to wait see what happens on the new guide rod/spring.


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...but that damn spring got me right in the chin!...
So much for the "Safe, easy takedown with no tools or trigger pull required."
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It's no different than any other recoil spring. None HAVE TO be captured.
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Have you tried to install one on the 45 Compact when the spring is loose? Go try it and get back with me. It's not as easy as your run of the mill recoil spring.


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zx9rt1 is right the guide rod on the 45 RAPc has a rounded edge that will hold the spring in place. When the spring comes off the end of the guide rod, you canot just insert the spring onto the slide and compress the guide rod onto the barrel.

I got my gun back today, so far the spring is staying in place. they sent a new guide rod with the pistol. Will update as needed
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Update! Spoke with Angie at Ruger this morning. She says they've been seeing a couple of these coming back in. She said it's not a "captured" spring. Hard to believe that.....but I digress. She is sending me e new one out tomorrow though. My issue is this, once you finally do get the spring back on, it's like a jack-n-the box from hell! Damn thing sometimes pops off before you can even get it back to the pistol for install. I had safety glasses on, thank goodness, but that damn spring got me right in the chin! So I had to step up the safety game a bit. On the second attempt I was wearing my Shoei street bike helmet, full face with the visor down. My wife thought I had lost my mind until that spring jumped the rod, ricochet's off the face shield, off the microwave, and straight into the kitchen sink! Recovered the spring and after the fourth try I got it installed back into the gun. You can't make this stuff up! Truly terrifying


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lolol Sorry you got terrified.
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Have you tried to install one on the 45 Compact when the spring is loose? Go try it and get back with me. It's not as easy as your run of the mill recoil spring.


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Not positive, but my guess is that they will send you a complete assembly. So, I hope this is the case as they too might be concerned about the safety of doing it yourself.
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I received the new replacement from Ruger today. Is it a "captured" assembly or not? Hmmmm?


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Looks like Ruger may need to start making those with a washer to hold the spring in.
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It is impossible to reassemble this gun without that spring "captured" on the guide rod. I've assembled dozens of semi-auto pistols, and have never seen this problem. I finally had to use an 11mm socket, sitting upright on my bench, using it to rest the spring against without contacting the guide rod, and rock the guide rod back into the spring to capture it. I then, very gently, put it back in on top of the barrel, not daring to let it go until it was resting on the barrel lug. Ruger needs to update the guide old/spring for sure.
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