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Old January 19th, 2017, 07:31 AM   #1
 
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New RAP 9 mm owner with questions.

Received my full size 9mm RAP yesterday. Have not shot it yet but rented one and put 100+ rounds thru it and loved it.
I have a few questions if I may:
(1). The mag release is very stiff to press and gritty when pressed. Is this due to just being out of box or is this built in so as to prevent premature mag release?

(2). I have old man eyesight. Does any RAP owner have a red dot placed on their pistol or a ghost sight on it ? Really interested in getting a red dot but scouring the net I cannot see anything for RAP. Not that much interested in a laser at this point. I looked in optic forum but nothing listed for RAP. I had a crimsom laser on my 9mm shield and actually, I had better accuracy with the iron sights of RAP than with the shield with laser.

This is my first Ruger and so far am impressed.



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Old January 19th, 2017, 07:42 AM   #2
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Hi GSK,

I don't own an RAP so I cannot comment on the sight question. However, Ruger usually packs their new firearms with a lot of grease and gunk for shipping. It is generally a good idea to give (any) new firearm a thorough cleaning before you fire it.

That might help with the mag release issue and certainly can't hurt. Could also be that the pistol is new and the mag release is tight now but may loosen up over time.

Enjoy the RAP and welcome aboard.
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I see a number of people complaining about the mag release... I must be lucky because I've owned 5 RAP pistols and also shot a rental and none of them had this issue.

As for an optics mount, are you looking to get the slide milled? If so, a couple of places will do it, including Galloway Precision. If you're talking about replacing the rear sight and using a dovetail mount, if you can find one that works for a Novak cut, it's close enough that you can probably get it to work with some minor fitting. The last option is one that mounts on the accessory rail... it's like to be big and cumbersome, but as the RAP uses a M1913 picatinny style, it should be possible to find one.
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I see a number of people complaining about the mag release... I must be lucky because I've owned 5 RAP pistols and also shot a rental and none of them had this issue.

As for an optics mount, are you looking to get the slide milled? If so, a couple of places will do it, including Galloway Precision. If you're talking about replacing the rear sight and using a dovetail mount, if you can find one that works for a Novak cut, it's close enough that you can probably get it to work with some minor fitting. The last option is one that mounts on the accessory rail... it's like to be big and cumbersome, but as the RAP uses a M1913 picatinny style, it should be possible to find one.
I think Galloway makes a dovetail mount for the Ruger SR9 that is a Novak cut I think?

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I see a number of people complaining about the mag release... I must be lucky because I've owned 5 RAP pistols and also shot a rental and none of them had this issue.

As for an optics mount, are you looking to get the slide milled? If so, a couple of places will do it, including Galloway Precision. If you're talking about replacing the rear sight and using a dovetail mount, if you can find one that works for a Novak cut, it's close enough that you can probably get it to work with some minor fitting. The last option is one that mounts on the accessory rail... it's like to be big and cumbersome, but as the RAP uses a M1913 picatinny style, it should be possible to find one.
Thanks for the info. I have been working the mag release by doing reps of inserting mag and dropping it and it is slightly getting better. Will cont to do reps.

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I think Galloway makes a dovetail mount for the Ruger SR9 that is a Novak cut I think?
Thanks will give them a call.
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I've had the Fullsize A9 for the better part of a year now and it's not a hard mag release...I just grabbed one in Compact size and the release is a bit tough, I don't remember the Fullsize being as stiff but I'm sure it was and this one will work off some of the stiffness as well.
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Received my full size 9mm RAP yesterday. Have not shot it yet but rented one and put 100+ rounds thru it and loved it.
I have a few questions if I may:
(1). The mag release is very stiff to press and gritty when pressed. Is this due to just being out of box or is this built in so as to prevent premature mag release?

(2). I have old man eyesight. Does any RAP owner have a red dot placed on their pistol or a ghost sight on it ? Really interested in getting a red dot but scouring the net I cannot see anything for RAP. Not that much interested in a laser at this point. I looked in optic forum but nothing listed for RAP. I had a crimsom laser on my 9mm shield and actually, I had better accuracy with the iron sights of RAP than with the shield with laser.

This is my first Ruger and so far am impressed.
Well, for item 1, it is stiff simply because it is new. I know most of us (me included) don't like to over lube, but, when you take it apart to clean it before you use it, shine a flashlight down the magwell, and put a couple of small drops of something like remoil down there, work the release for a minute or two and dab up the residual with a pipe cleaner or such. go shoot it and repeat this process for the first few range sessions, it will loosen up . I have the same pistol and it worked for me.

For I them 2, I have no red dot advice to you other than to send in your slide to Galloway precision and the will mill out a spot for you for a few specific types of red dot. As for me, I wasn't going to go to the expense and mutilation of my brand new pistol, so, I got a crimson trace railmaster pro laser instead. I am an old guy too and it really works beautifully for me out to 25 yards. just saying to each his own.
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As for an optics mount, are you looking to get the slide milled? If so, a couple of places will do it, including Galloway Precision. If you're talking about replacing the rear sight and using a dovetail mount, if you can find one that works for a Novak cut, it's close enough that you can probably get it to work with some minor fitting.
Can't confirm that the RAP has a Novak cut rear dovetail...but if it does here's a video of a 9E using the Burris 1911 Novak mount for the FastFire

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Can't confirm that the RAP has a Novak cut rear dovetail...but if it does here's a video of a 9E using the Burris 1911 Novak mount for the FastFire
Yes it does. Thanks.
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Nice! A Burris Fastfire might have to find it's way onto my 9E.
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As far as I can tell by trying to take measurements, I would expect that some fitting might be required for the dovetail. Also, I'm not positive that the height of the cuts are "standard" so it's possible that sights made for Novak dovetails can be made to fit but might be difficult to regulate POI/POA vertically. Of course, with something like a red dot mount, this won't matters.

As another FYI, once the set screw is loosened, the rear sight almost just falls out. This is in contrast to the front sights... which I found eventually needed to be cut in half to be removed.
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The front sight seems like it will only come out going left, once I got mine out they have tapered cuts on the dovetail and it would appear that it don't like to "back up". Got mine out and replaced it with a fiber optic one that I could focus on better. I have a set of XS small dot sights on the way for it as they really improved my shooting on my 1911.
The rear is a Novak cut and another source for the red dot optic mount is EGW (Evolution Gun Works) they are my go to supplier for 1911 parts.
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You got the front sight to drift out of a RAP?

I used heat, cold, heat and cold, oil... hammered left, hammered right... everything short of an arbor press. I finally gave up after causing some not insignificant injuries to a few fingers on my left hand. I dremeled it in half to get it out. This was on two separate guns... a RAP9 and RAP9c
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There is a Burris Fastfire mount on amazon and eBay specific for the RAP. I am thinking of trying it myself on the compact.
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