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Old January 22nd, 2017, 12:45 PM   #16
 
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I have about 400 plus rounds through mine now and no issues at all with knuckle bashing. I have tried all three backstraps for the grip and even with my big hands the small one gave me the best "hold" on the gun. Some people I have noticed just like to choke-up on their grip, my brother does this bad and he lost skin to a Glock slide.



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Old March 15th, 2017, 04:57 PM   #17
 
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When I grip the pistol correctly with the grip tang area firmly and properly seated and centered in the middle of the Y between my thumb and forefinger, it doesn't batter my knuckle at all. If I grip the gun in a matter that rotates it around in my hand clockwise (when looking at it from the top), I have the thumb knuckle problem.
Well...I think I just learned I've been improperly holding my pistol since I started shooting (although that was only a few years ago). And I think I know the reason why.

My first pistol was an SR9c. Still have it and still love it. However, that being the first pistol I shot frequently, the grip tang is so contoured or rounded on the top corners I never had the thumb knuckle bite because my knuckle easily cleared the corner even when rotating it a little for further reach with my trigger finger. Now that I have a RAP9, it is more squared off in those areas which causes it to beat up on my knuckle.

Headed back to the range tomorrow to see if this fixes the problem!
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Old March 15th, 2017, 10:32 PM   #18
 
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I'm three sessions in on a 5000-round endurance run on a full-sized 9mm version.
Roughly 150 rounds first session for accuracy, 450 rounds on a second session load & fire, and two days ago 1000 rounds load & fire.

The pistol frame is wider at the upper rear than others & that left corner does make contact with the base of my thumb if I use a high-thumb hold, which is not the way I normally shoot.

I'm forcing myself to deliberately shoot thumbs up in finishing the run to see if that's really an issue for me.
So far, even through the continuous 1000 rounds session, using the insert that came on the pistol, the worst it did was a noticeable minor abrasion on the skin.
Not really uncomfortable, did not draw blood there.

If I were to be shooting it the way I normally do, both thumbs locked down, it wouldn't even do the abrasion.
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Old March 16th, 2017, 08:43 AM   #19
 
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I recently traded for a RAP .45, and just like the MAC review showed, it does beat my thumb up. Has anyone had this issue, and then remedied it by modification of some kind? Changing to the big backstrap was more comfortable for me, but still have the thumb issue. I am considering sanding the square edge, or maybe talon grips. Anyone have any success fixing it?
I have the RAP 9mm and never had that issue. You could try with the small backstrap to see if that will allow you to adjust your grip as others have mentioned while giving you the most reach on the trigger

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For me, my RAP 45 is the smoothest shooter I have out five and has never given me the first rubbed thumb knuckle. But it dose my wife, she doesn't care to shoot for that reason.
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Three more cases today, I'm 3000 rounds in now, halfway done on the endurance run.

The base of my thumb is very sore, but no scrapes or abrasions there.
Did draw blood in about the center of the web, looks like from the upper edge of the grip insert, NOT the frame corner.

All of the 1500 today were fired from a thumbs up hold.

Incidentally, still chugging, bone dry.
The initial Breakfree lube just before starting the initial shooting burned off quite a ways back.
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Old March 24th, 2017, 09:36 PM   #22
 
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Now slightly over 4500 rounds through this sample.
Continuing to fire with a thumbs up hold, and if I make sure to center the pistol in the web of my hand, no problem with the base of the thumb.

Also not yet been cleaned, no additional lube after the one single lube job before beginning shooting.
No malfunctions aside from a couple more short-strokes on the trigger re-set.
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Old March 26th, 2017, 03:53 PM   #23
 
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Now 5000 rounds through the sample, no malfunctions, no cleaning, no re-lubing.

And no problem with the thumb.
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Old March 26th, 2017, 05:37 PM   #24
 
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I had experienced the thumb rap on my first trip to the range. I had not been holding the grip tight enough. With a proper grip, it doesn't occur for me.
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Everything hits the inside of my thumb nuckel. It's always swollen for some reason even when I'm not shooting much.
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Old March 30th, 2017, 12:44 PM   #26
 
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Project completed.
5500 rounds all in, one single misfeed with a 92-grain light all-copper HP load during the "After" accuracy testing.
Shot better at the end, overall, than at the beginning.
Never cleaned, never re-lubed.

Learned to keep the pistol centered, it doesn't beat the thumb up unduly.
If the thickness of the pistol isn't a deal-killer for you, Ruger's got a very serious contender at last.
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Old April 3rd, 2017, 10:25 AM   #27
 
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I cured the knuckle issue by going down one size on the backstrap so that the beavertail rests on the web between my thumb and trigger finger (where it's supposed to) and not on my thumb. My accuracy noticeably improved too. Most doublestack pistols require me to rotate my hand a little to the right in order to reach the trigger, but I can get a perfect fit the RAP.
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Having my RAP9 for a week and reading about the knuckle issue I went back and forth through the 3 grips. Finally I settled on the small one since it allowed the pistol to rest centered in the web of my hand. When I tried the Med and Lrg, they only pushed my knuckle closer to the offending corner. I use XL drivers gloves at work but I do not consider myself as having large hands.

I got to shoot for the first time today and am stoked about the pistol. Shoots dead on and easy to get back on target. The small grip allowed for my hand to get a high grip close to the bore axis and not even close to knuckle bite.

My guess is if people used the small grip we would hear less about the knuckle issue. I estimate that Ruger should have made the other two grips smaller up top and the extra radius a little further down towards the bottom of the grip, kind of like the Walther pistols. For me the hump in the med and lrg grips had the hump too high in my palm and pushed my web too far the the rear.
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Having my RAP9 for a week and reading about the knuckle issue I went back and forth through the 3 grips. Finally I settled on the small one since it allowed the pistol to rest centered in the web of my hand. When I tried the Med and Lrg, they only pushed my knuckle closer to the offending corner. I use XL drivers gloves at work but I do not consider myself as having large hands.

I got to shoot for the first time today and am stoked about the pistol. Shoots dead on and easy to get back on target. The small grip allowed for my hand to get a high grip close to the bore axis and not even close to knuckle bite.

My guess is if people used the small grip we would hear less about the knuckle issue. I estimate that Ruger should have made the other two grips smaller up top and the extra radius a little further down towards the bottom of the grip, kind of like the Walther pistols. For me the hump in the med and lrg grips had the hump too high in my palm and pushed my web too far the the rear.
Different version of the same experience. I have the RAP 9 compact. Like you, I experimented with all 3 backstraps. I DO have large hands and what I discovered was the gun was comfortable with all 3, but I shoot left with both the small and medium. Right on center with the large
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1 week owner of a RAP Compact and another thumb knuckle issue here, although in all fairness I may have had some worn skin in that exact spot anyway which would make matters worse. I found, after reading someone mention it, that I may have been bringing my index finger too far into the trigger (not using the finger tip as I should be doing) which could have me rotating my thumb knuckle into that corner more than I needed to. Ive only had a chance to put about 200 rounds through it trying to make the correction so its still a work in progress but I'm feeling better about my purchase.
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