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Old January 9th, 2017, 07:03 PM   #1
 
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Ruger LCP II incident

I'm new here, first post. Thought I would pass on an incident with my new LCP II. Purchased a new lcp II a little over 3 weeks ago (12/26/16), didn't get a chance to shoot it until yesterday (1/08/17). First box (50) had probably 10 ftf they were Sig Sauer Elite Performance 100 gr. fmj had flat nose, most would chamber with just push of thumb. Next box was Perfecta 95 gr fmj brass case round nose. At about 30 rounds into the second box the firearm jammed and I couldn't get it to go into full battery nor could I get the live round to extract/eject. The slide was jammed. I tried my best to get the firearm to either go into battery or eject the round for about 10 minutes. Being at the range with a lot of people around I thought it best to safely transport the firearm home. Once home the hammer was in the cocked position and I had to ensure that it wouldn't fall and strike the firing pin. I inserted a short screw in the back of the slide to block the hammer just in case it released. I removed the take down pin but still couldn't get the slide off. I finally managed to get the live round out of the gun. It was safe now. ( I figured that I couldn't ship the gun to Ruger with a round it so I had to get it out somehow.) After struggling with it for 45 minutes the slide finally came off. It seemed as though the trigger was somehow interfering with the barrel lug because when I moved the slide fore and aft the trigger would move in the opposite direction. Once the slide was off the tip of the trigger pivot pin (part 15 in the parts diagram) fell out, it was sheared. The pin must have backed out and jammed everything up. I sent Ruger an email and am wait to hear from them.

I really like this firearm and really wanted it to work but it looks like they have some bugs to work out.



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Hey There, Welcome to the Forum.
I'm sure Ruger will fix the problem, from what I have heard.
To bad that happened especially with a New Firearm.
Kinda does take the Old Wind out of the Sails though.
Let us know what Happens.

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Welcome.

Just a question I try to ask new folks reporting problems: Did you very thoroughly de-grease and clean your new gun before taking it to the range.

Not saying that was the root of a problem but I just am curious.
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Jasper, it might not be the firearm. It might be the ammo. If I use SIG's ammo in a revolver no problem but when ever I tried to use some in an auto-loader it became a jamomatic. Which was ashame because that ammo is reasonably priced.

Don't worry none Ruger will take care of you if it's the gun.
Good luck and stay positive.
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Jasper,

That just plain sucks. Sorry. You'll hear from everyone on the board that Ruger customer service is great and they'll make everything good. I can't personally attest to that - I've never needed to use them. I own four Ruger pistols and have never had a problem that required sending a gun back - certainly nothing like what you've experienced.

Welcome to the forum. Good luck and let us know how things work out.
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Yea gun was cleaned and lighty oiled. Was really hairy to have a cocked firearm with a live round stuck in it. I'm sure ruger will make it right.
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Was really hairy to have a cocked firearm with a live round stuck in it.

Same thing happen to me with Speer in my G39 I once had. That's what they call a 'catastrophic failure/malfunction'. In the real world you are dead. It took me over 20 minutes to clear and that was in optimal conditions with good lighting.


I had it happen multiple times but never like that where I couldn't clear with a re-rack.
I think I was more angry than scared. Because it's when I discover Glock's are not perfect.


(and I will never buy law-enforcement trade in ammo again)
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Jasper,
Welcome from a fellow northlander
The others are correct in that Ruger service is great, I'm sure they will fix er up.
Ammo is always suspect to me and I have read some info on the sig ammo and it doesn't sound to be the best and the other you mentioned I know nothing about.
I would say when your pistol returns to you try it out with some decent Winchester or federal stuff to insure function then maybe travel down other roads after that JMHO
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Jasper:

I, too, cannot feed Sig ammo to my LCP II - I get lots of FTEs... Haven't tried other flat-nosed or hollow-points as I carry the Ruger ARX ammo and it works fine...

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I bought the LCP II in November and shot mainly Remington through it at first and then my own reloads without issue. I have no experience with SIG ammo so I cannot comment on that.
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I shoot Sig ammo in my Colt Mustang and it works great!
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I should have mentioned that I have never had an issue with Sig ammo in my PPK. I still think the LCP II allows the magazine to sit just high enough to have the next round in the magazine periodically "catch" the extracting round when the ammo is flat-fronted, disengaging the extractor and creating a failure to extract.
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Contacted Ruger today. Got an RMA#, going Fed Ex tomorrow.
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Contacted Ruger today. Got an RMA#, going Fed Ex tomorrow.

Let us know how things turn out.
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Wow, sorry to hear about the issues with your new LCPII. No problems at all with the wife's new one. About 200 rounds, mostly Blazer Brass and WWB all 95 gr FMJ.
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