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Old January 1st, 2017, 05:22 PM   #31
 
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All the pistols discussed in this thread are carry or range pistols - not collectors' pieces. So who really gives a rat's *** what they look like. It's performance that counts. I was one who also questioned the need for the RAP. I'm very happy with my SR9c. Well, after talking to some RAP owners, it became clear to me that the RAPs extra weight is viewed as an asset to them. They feel they get better second and third shots because the weight makes it more controllable. I can relate to that. My SR9c is a great shooter for me and even though my LC9s has an equally good trigger, the light-weight frame makes the gun snappy and not nearly as accurate for me.

As far as Glock, my first 9mm was a G17. I loved it until I felt the SR9c in my hand. Ergonomics matter. I'm way better with my Sr than with my Glock.



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I love both of my RAPs. I don't care if anyone else does, except for aftermarket components. Seriously, I have a duty sized RAP 9mm (no manual safety) and a RAP 9mm compact (with manual safety) and I love both. The compact is my EDC. I am awaiting the RAP Compact .45 ACP with manual safety. When it comes out, I'll start looking for the best deal on it.

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All the pistols discussed in this thread are carry or range pistols - not collectors' pieces. So who really gives a rat's *** what they look like. It's performance that counts.
I agree and lost sight of that. The only two hand guns I care about how they look (and they are not collectors' pieces) are my stainless 4" GP100 and my 5" SR1911. Simply because they look nice (to me) and I want to pass them down to our daughter. Other than that, you are correct who gives a rats *** what they look like. I like the fact that my 45 American goes bang each time.

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As far as Glock, my first 9mm was a G17. I loved it until I felt the SR9c in my hand. Ergonomics matter. I'm way better with my Sr than with my Glock.
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Have a look at the N82 pro. That's Nate Squared. I own both an SR9c and an LC9s. The SR is a bit more to carry and not as concealable however, it shoots way better than the LC. I carry the SR whenever practical and the LC otherwise.
I've been looking at the N82 because I've read so many good recommendations, but I really don't like the steel clips. I prefer either the wide nylon clips or loops. Right now I have a Black Arch Protos-M on order with both the single clip and dual clip (with loops) backers. I hope that will work out, but if not, the N82 is next.
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I've been looking at the N82 because I've read so many good recommendations, but I really don't like the steel clips. I prefer either the wide nylon clips or loops. Right now I have a Black Arch Protos-M on order with both the single clip and dual clip (with loops) backers. I hope that will work out, but if not, the N82 is next.
Good luck. Hope it works for you. For every handgun I own, I'm pretty sure I've been thru at least 5 holsters before deciding this one is right for me.
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Howdy...don't care for the title of this thread but I will comment...

I think all Ruger firearms are well engineered and made. Otherwise none of us would be here reading and typing. Fu** the pooh pooh comparison.....imho...

Listen I own a RAP 45 since brand new and a Glock 17C since new.
Both are wonderful. Both a real pleasure to own and shoot.
Like women, they have they're differences..

I tried to upload side by side photos, and really nice photos I might add, but photobucket can kiss my ripe *** with the BS they expect to transfer a photo. Hoping this site will provide for direct upload soon...

Seems most forums are plugged with comparisons, better this and better that....and I thank the members who have truly contributed useful hands on info...

But not to be boring....go shoot your favorite **looking** pistol and then shoot a Ruger or Glock or SW and be happy with the privilege and opportunity. Choose and buy the one which works and feels good. Much like women, there are NO better....its what feels good. Have fun. Enjoy the choosing....
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Howdy...don't care for the title of this thread but I will comment...

I think all Ruger firearms are well engineered and made. Otherwise none of us would be here reading and typing. Fu** the pooh pooh comparison.....imho..

But not to be boring....go shoot your favorite **looking** pistol and then shoot a Ruger or Glock or SW and be happy with the privilege and opportunity. Choose and buy the one which works and feels good. Much like women, there are NO better....its what feels good. Have fun. Enjoy the choosing....
Amen Big J!!
I've got an SR40 / A9 in full and compact / 22/45 MKSeries ....and I think they're all great guns...looking to add a Ruger revolver next, most likely in the GP series.
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Why do people pooh-pooh the RAP

For the same reason that some people have tendencies toward racism:
~ We are creatures of habit.
~ We are reluctant to change.
~ Fear of the unknown (understood).
~ When it looks different than what we are used to or comfortable with we bulk at it.
~ One way to get the unknown out of our presence/lives is to run it down or chase it away.

This is not a difficult condition to overcome but it does take admitting it to ones self and then a real effort to change.

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It's a Glock wanna be. I love Ruger for their double action and single action revolvers and great customer service but in pistols I don't see anything great about them and yes I've owned them before.
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The 10mm Auto has been making a comeback and I'm not sure why Ruger hasn't made a RAP in 10mm Auto yet.
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The one thing I do like about the RAP is that Ruger says it can be fed a steady diet of +p ammo so kudos for them.

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It's not a Glock "wannabe" any more than all other polymer pistols are Glock wannabes. The internals are completely different, the trigger mechanism is completely different, the drop safety is completely different, the backstrack system is completely different. If anything, it's a SIG P320 wannabe.

As for 10mm, as much as I would totally love for it to become popular enough to see many guns coming out for it again, it's quite unlikely to happen now or anytime in the foreseeable future. As mentioned earlier, people can't even tolerate the recoil of the .40 anymore. It seems like the 9mm is becoming the "standard" defensive caliber and the .45 is there to pick up the slack with folks who don't feel like the 9mm is "enough" gun. It feels like we've regressed back to 1989.
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It's not a Glock "wannabe" any more than all other polymer pistols are Glock wannabes. The internals are completely different, the trigger mechanism is completely different, the drop safety is completely different, the backstrack system is completely different. If anything, it's a SIG P320 wannabe...
Plus some other differences between RAP and Glock: RAP does not require trigger pull for takedown, RAP has ambidextrous controls, RAP has optional manual safety, RAP has stainless steel slide/barrel, RAP has nickel-teflon plated steel magazines, RAP has no through-frame pins for fire control unit, RAP costs less.
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I like the looks of the RAP. I think years from now it will be seen as a proven reliable classic. You do have to find what works for you. I can only shoot Walther pistols on aim and credit their frame/grip design which fits my hands perfectly but a lot of people like to bash that company and the grip frame. I honestly don't care because my P99 has been going strong for years without ever having an issue.
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You have to take these you tube so called gun gurus opinions with a grain of salt as they are just their opinions and may be influenced by monetary gain....I have a G17 an M&P and the list goes on of polymer pistols and with that being said I love my 9mm RAP and love absolutely love the looks of it. I personally think Glocks are beyond ugly but they shoot great and have excellent product support etc etc...the RAP has alot of the best features of the top competitors brands all in one affordable package, plus a really nice trigger for a combat leo type of pistol....most of the people who spew doo doo probably never even held one let alone had the pleasure of shooting one.
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