This is a discussion on Magazine Loader within the Ruger Pistols forums, part of the Pistol & Revolver Forum category; Those thingys are also known in some circles as clip stuffers[ ]...
Picked up my S&W M66 to go to shoot one Sunday afternoon, and after about 20 rounds-the trigger pulled double-action-the hammer and cylinder din't do nuttin'!!! I went to work that night with my Combat Commander in my duty holster---anything made by man can go thub....for CCW permit holders...that's the best argument for carrying a backup-if we need it-we ain't got nary a radio to call the cavalry...it's us and the BGs-usually to the conclusion of the action...give that some thought....and a back-up and a few reloads don't seem near so heavy.....
Not even close to true...witness my experience above, and I've heard lots of others...some couldn't cock them, some couldn't open them(that's happened to me...) don't put your faith in the machine...it can and will fail....
Oh give me a revolver home, home on the range No Jams or sore thumbs either!
Revolvers can jam too.
Only if you fire a squib, or have a fouling buildup from shooting the "Holy Black" without lube on the bullet or cylender face
Nope, they can fail for an number of reasons, both mechanical and from unburnt powder and dirt, same as a Auto. I have both, and have had just as much trouble with the revolvers as the autos. I've had both mechanical failure and unburnt powder to stop a revolver. Anything mechanical is subject to failure. That being said, both auto and revolvers are fairly reliable if kept clean and lubed.
You know, if you don't change the oil in your vehicle, lube the struts, or the chain on your bicycle, check the air in your tires perform scheuled mantance on your vehicle it will malfunction also. Any responsable person knows that anything mechanical can fail if not properly maintained. I maintain my car, bicycle, tools, guns, etc. and have a minimum of or no trouble at all. I've had a revolver jam on me once and it was my fault not the gun's I fired a squib; but luckily the bullet didn't clear the chamber and this kept the cylinder from turning.
You know, if you don't change the oil in your vehicle, lube the struts, or the chain on your bicycle, check the air in your tires perform scheuled mantance on your vehicle it will malfunction also. Any responsable person knows that anything mechanical can fail if not properly maintained. I maintain my car, bicycle, tools, guns, etc. and have a minimum of or no trouble at all. I've had a revolver jam on me once and it was my fault not the gun's I fired a squib; but luckily the bullet didn't clear the chamber and this kept the cylinder from turning.
This thread started as how to load Magazines for Autos. It had nothing to do with which is best, autos or revolvers. We are not going to bash revolvers or autos either one on this board. You can have your opinion, and its just that, but don't try to induce it as facts. The fact is that any gun, whether cleaned or not, can fail. There are Auto and Revolver fans both on this Board, and we haven't had any problems up until now, so lets keep it that way.
It was December several years back when I bought my P95. I belong to one of the local gun clubs, so cold or no cold I wanted to go shoot! I loaded and reloaded those magazines (six) until my left thumb finaly wouldn't cooperate any longer.
I went up to the club house to warm up and another member asked me how I like, "THAT Ruger" - he had a SIG P-Somebody he was cleaning. I told him it had functioned better than my thumb in the cold. He then said something along this line, "Well, at least you got a MAG LOADER with your Ruger. SIG doesn't GIVE anything away for free".
I looked at him and before I even spoke the light-bulb came on .... telling me that, "The funny looking 'metal thing' in the case was to LOAD THE MAGS" ..... and save my THUMB! I never let on that I didn't know what it was for ......... (DUMB!).
I got one with my P89 and was able to use mine on my S&W 4006 at work, and I was one of the weapons officers, so this wonderful little tool save my thumbs many times. Neat how a little invention like this makes things so much simpler.
Dan'o :}
First P97 I got had one-I was clueless, too....just wasn't used to modern conveniences!!!!
Magazine loaders?? Hell, sheepdog, us older guys aint wimps like some. We still use the thumb that was made just for loading mags like John Browning intended!
I ain't got any empty pockets to put one in!!! I've used the left hand to put the next one in while the right thumb held the top round down for so many years, it's faster for me...a mag loader's nice, but so's a GI can opener...if you're in that situation.......
Is it true (or advisable) that if you leave the magazine's loaded (my new SR9 holds 17), the springs will get easier? Or do the springs need to be as tight as they are when new to feed properly?