RNorris

I have never owned a hi cap 9, but shot them plenty. My impression is that I like the SR9 more....you guys with more experience in these type handguns, what are your thoughts?

SR9c

I'm not impressed with Glock's ergonomics...it's like a brick that is light...The SR9 is miles and miles better in ergonomics. I had a SR9 that I loved EXCEPT for the trigger...I had however, been waiting for a compact version since the SR9 intro so we they finally made it to the market, the first time I snapped one at my dealer, I took out the SR9 and traded it on the spot...Diff in triggers is NIGHT AND DAY...smoother, lighter, crisper, and that's from the box. I then ordered a 2nd one and have plans on 4 more for placement around home and in 2 cars...It shoots as good or better than the SR9, comes with a concealable short mag, plus a 17 round full size mag with grip sleeve that's a perfect match with rest of grip...They also include a pinkie finger rest type base for short mag too. I put 37 rounds through it today of NATO M882 ball and had one big nasty hole at 7 yrds with one called flyer about 1/2" to upper right of hole...I would even take a P95 over the Glock...it's a great Ruger too, just not as good of ergonomics, but still feels better the the Glock.

RNorris

Thanks. Your description of the Glock as a "light brick" is spot on. I think I will start looking for a green framed SR9.

Does anyone speculate that these will be offered in .40 ?

George S

I'm not a Glock fan simply because they do not fit my hand. The Glock is well made and there are probably millions in service as either personal handguns or in LEO use nearly everywhere.

Now that Ruger has introduced the SR9c, I wouldn't be surprised that a .40 Short & Weak version will come out for next year. It's a popular cartridge and it would make sense for Ruger to add that caliber now that there are two versions of the SR9.

Shiloh13

Although I am sure the SR9 is a fine firearm - one which I do not own - but I will take that "light brick" any day over the SR9.

Ergonomics are subjective. The Glock doesn't fit my hand perfectly, although others will tell you it does for them. However working with the pistol has given me a strong comfort level with the pistol. It's trigger, though not perfect is far better than the SR9 coming out of the box and improvement is easily accomplished, unlike on the SR9.

Smithing the Glock is as simple as it gets, and aftermarket options for both trigger and the rest of the gun are better than virtually any other handgun, sans 1911.

And when the SR9 accomplishes surpassing several hundred thousands of rounds caked in mud, snow, and sand as the Glock 17 has done, then perhaps I will be more willing to give it a place in my safe. At least as a self defense pistol.

In my mind, Rugers revolvers will stand with any. Their pistols on the other hand, while having some fine attributes in their own right, have much improvement to make before they will equal the level of respect and loyalty that many other pistols garner. Much of this is also attributable to Rugers QA process, which appears to be inconsistent at best. Improve in this area, and take time to refine their designs just a little more - something that is beginning to show up in the design of the SR9 - and Ruger will move quickly into the area held by more coveted brands.

Until then, the Glock is still a superior firearm to the SR9. It may not always be the right, or best, firearm for every individual. But it is proven in combat at both the military and civilian level a million times over. The SR9 is a very good pistol. But it is not a Glock. Not yet.

78CJ5

I have a Glock 26 I will never get rid of. But a SR9c is on my list. It is about the same size as a Glock 26 and I can add a light to it for a bedside pistol.

Shiloh13

I love the ergonomics of the SR9. P345 too. The designs are definitely moving in the right direction. I have yet to find an SR9 with a reasonable trigger, but if I ever do, temptation may win out. I really want to love these guns. They just aren't quite there yet for me.

RNorris

Like I said, I don't own either, but have shot them both....probably 200 rounds through each.

Both jammed exactly once each, and I attribute that to my weak hold on the plastic grip.

The Ruger fits me much better than the Glock, and I like the looks of the Ruger more (not a tactical reason, but heck, looks matter)

The Ruger is effectively "brand new" and relatively unproven....except in individual cases.

The Glock has been proven, by anyones standards.

It's a tough choice, but I'm going to go with the SR9. It will be proven out (by me) before it is a carry gun.....I have plenty of reliable carry guns.

I'll keep you all posted.

KKBMTGG/go army

I'm of the same mind Shiloh, I'm a Glock owner of better than 20 years now with countless thousands of rounds fired and countless hunting and fishing trips with plenty of mud, rain and snow with no malfunction at all.
To say that I "trust" a firearm is a big thing, I trust Glock!
The trigger on the Glock is easy to "fix" and a very good 3 pound pull is no big trick.
I really want to like the SR9 but until parts are available to clean up that trigger, I'll wait. If the Compact trigger is as good as some folks are saying then I may well have to have one.

SR9c

Thankfully, I do not use my handguns caked in mud, snow, or sand, nor do I drop them from airplanes, run over them with tanks or bury them on the beach of the North Sea....Instead, it lives a very calm life either at the range going bang, bang, and I might add, dead on target, or it lives in a pocket holster in my front pocket...no mud or sand there either...And really, not any body I have ever known in 64 years treated their gun like that...In fact, treat your M-16 like that in Nam, and you would have found your name on a black wall, even in war, some things had to be clean somewhat!

yoyomeng

I thought the SR9c's improved trigger was going to be installed in newly made SR9's as well. Anyone else hear that?

SR9c

Sure would be a HUGE improvement! The nasty trigger was why I traded mine on the SR9c...There was such a BIG difference...

BuckeyeBlast

Glock is proven reliability. The design has been around for years and it's as close to Glock Perfection as you're going to find.
But... that doesn't mean a damn thing if you hold the gun and don't like it or like the grip. The newer Gen 4 .40 Glock has some more features like a changeable backstrap, but I haven't had my hands on one yet. The SR9 feels nice, but I haven't shot it yet.
My carry gun is a G26 and I shoot a G34 for competitions. I also 'trust' my Glocks. I would be totally open to a SR9 or SR9c, but it'd take a whole lot of successful successive shooting before I'd even consider trading in one of my guns for one.

One very important question is, what are your intentions w/ the SR9 or the Glock once you purchase it? Is this going to be a gun you're going to put your life behind, or shoot paper with? If putting your life behind, I'd get the Glock. If you're target shooting, then go for the Ruger!

Peregrine Falcon

I just got done shopping for what I hope to be my first concealed carry weapon after I become proficient with it and then jump through the hoops to get the permit.

I looked at primarily a Glock 19, Springfield XD-9 and ended up settling on a Ruger SR9 after a trip to a range. I rented both the Glock and the SA guns to try them out and found that neither fit my hand well. I won't say a negative thing about either of them, I have heard many good things about Glock and would trust them w/out hesitation. Unfortunately I don't know that I can trust myself to use them properly and reliably because they fit my hand so poorly (I guess I have really short fingers). I can't reach my trigger finger past the trigger far enough to pull it properly (with the tip of my finger, not the crease).

I understand the "light brick" comment, it's a reference to the shape of the grip more than anything. Glocks do feel rather big and blocky in the grip area which is part of why they don't fit my hand well. The slender profile of the SR9 with the decreased reach to trigger sealed it for me.

Had a blast running 200 rounds through my SR9 just yesterday.

PS - I had someone recomend a Kahr to me, unfortunately I could not find one that I could hold first as no gun stores in my area had one in stock. When I ready for a smaller gun I may go looking in that dirrection or I may go for the SR9c

RNorris

"One very important question is, what are your intentions w/ the SR9 or the Glock once you purchase it? Is this going to be a gun you're going to put your life behind, or shoot paper with? If putting your life behind, I'd get the Glock. If you're target shooting, then go for the Ruger! "

Good question. I have pretty tough rule for my handguns....semi autos for self defense need to operate flawlessly for 500 rounds. 250 of them with the chosen carry round. I'm a little less stingent on revolvers. So yes, if it passes the test it will be a carry gun. I would stick to this test with any gun....Glock included. So the historical reliability means less to me than you might think.....it's individual reliability I'm looking for.

I'm not a big fan of 9mm for self defense, but this gun will fill a niche'....high capacity, lighter weight than a 1911, more corrosion resistant than an all steel gun. Probably a summer carry gun.