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Old May 11th, 2016, 03:52 PM   #46
 
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One question is the 9E a "cheaper" gun in the sense that corners have been cut that make it any less accurate?
I watched this video and this guy didn't think it was very accurate at the end of the video.



That said, I've watched many more of his similar videos with different makes and he strikes me as a little less accurate that he could be?
You can go back in this thread and see the "cut corners" on the 9E: fewer serrations at the rear of the slide may make racking the slide a bit harder, the loaded chamber indicator is a peep hole versus the pop-up indicator on the SR9, the rear sight is not adjustable for elevation, which MAY affect accuracy, and the 9E only comes with one magazine.

IMHO, the 9E and SR9 will be very accurate at combat distances, and that's what matters most!




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At the end of his video he says that he took a chamber/bore cast of the barrel and found it to be oversize that might explain the larger groups. I'm hoping it was a rare occurrence with his gun.
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At the end of his video he says that he took a chamber/bore cast of the barrel and found it to be oversize that might explain the larger groups. I'm hoping it was a rare occurrence with his gun.
Don't sweat the small stuff. Ruger's lifetime warranty and customer service is among the best in the business! If there's an issue, then Ruger will make it right.

Clean your pistol, choose your ammo, adjust your sights and you're good to go.

If it ain't broke, don't fix it!

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I've never entertained the thought of buying a pistol on line. How does it work? Is the gun shipped to a local dealer where the back ground check and paper work is done? Do I need to notify the dealer I choose, I'm sure there will be a charge? Do I pay the local dealer or the on line store?

edit,, $359.95 for a black SR9 has me thinking...
Most pawn shops are FFL's.

I use a local pawn shop that sells new/used firearms & he charges $20 for the paperwork/transfer. If the online dealer does not have a copy of the FFL's license, I get the fax #s needed & stop by the pawn shop & he faxes a copy of his license to the online dealer.
I have used Kentucky Gun Co. & Palmetto State Armory several times, but any of the established dealers are fine.
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Old May 14th, 2016, 09:33 AM   #50
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I have mixed feelings about the Glock-style safety in the trigger, to be honest. To me, it's partially tactile. I like the feel of a smooth trigger better than that complex, spring-loaded thing. But I'm getting used to the one on my SR9C and it hasn't adversely affected my accuracy, so I guess I can put up with it.

I recall reading about your experiences in an earlier post of yours. That seems odd to me. But then I have largish hands, so I have plenty of finger to wrap around the trigger. The closest I've come to something like what you experience is the double-action pull on my Tanfoglio CZ75 clone. The trigger sits pretty far forward when in DA mode and I actually have to reposition my hand slightly to gain a sufficient grip on the trigger, which has a very heavy DA pull.

You know, apparently the only RAP version being delivered right now is the "Pro" model, which is characterized by the trigger safety and lack of magazine disconnect. Ruger will be producing a "Standard" model, which will have a thumb safety, but it will also have a magazine disconnect. Dunno how you feel about the latter, but with a thumb safety instead of what it has now, this pistol may become a possibility for you. Far as the mag disconnect goes, with the SR series, it's possible to disable this "feature," so it may be possible to do it to the RAP as well.
The magazine disconnect is fairly easy to remove. An easy way to disable the trigger safety is to drill a tiny hole through the trigger and safety and push a piece of paperclip in to hold it open. This can also be removed easily if desired. *IMPORTANT: DO THIS AT YOUR OWN RISK. ONLY DO IT TO A PISTOL WHICH ALSO HAS A THUMB SAFETY. I HIGHLY DISCOURAGE DOING THIS TO A DEFENSIVE PISTOL DUE TO LIABILITY.*
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Cabelas had a sale that started today for $299.95 on the SR9E so I went in early and was the first one at the door when it opened up. Usually and maybe it's just my bad luck when they have these sales that they are sold out of what ever I'm interested in by the time I get there.. Not today! I looked before at the Sig P320 and the FNS40 and I felt that the SR9 fit my hands better and seems like the bore axis is lower than the other guns. maybe tomorrow I'll get it out and shoot some!
Hey, that's great! Hope you enjoy it.

FYI, Ruger doesn't make an SR9E; they make the 9E, which is a budget version of the SR9.

Everything between the SR9 and the 9E is basically the same EXCEPT:

the loaded chamber indicator,
the serrations on the rear of the slide,
the rear sight is NOT adjustable for elevation on the 9E.

Also, I think the 9E lacks some of the extras that are included with the SR9.

BOTH guns will shoot the same, and that's what matters most.

Enjoy!

I LOVE my SR9!
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That is the way it was advertised in the Cabelas sale flier. I've seen what Ruger has it listed as on their website and seen it referred to a couple different ways. Still feels the best in my hands. Might someday treat it to a Cerakote slide finish.
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Got the 9E out and cleaned up the gun and polished the bore with JB Bore cleaner this morning. Took a full 17 round mag and target to the backyard range to see what it would do. Shooting off a sandbag rest at 25 yards, within the first 6 rounds the 4 holes in the 3 inch bulls eye showed up. I continued to shoot until the mag was empty and the results are in, using near 60 year old eyes to boot!

Extreme spread was 5 1/2 inches but if you discount the 4 in the black that were shot early in the session, the vertical spread of what seems to be where it wants to go to the right, was 4 3/8 inches with the horizontal spread at 2 1/2 inches. Need to drift the rear sight a little to the left and shoot again soon. Recoil was pretty mild compared to my LC9s and the trigger seemed nice, maybe not as nice as the LC9s but not bad at all. This will be the house and truck gun when camping or traveling. Now to look for a holster for range use!
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Forgot to mention that I used Perfecta 115 grain FMJ.
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I use that Perfecta ammo a lot for the range, good price point and shoots fine. Nice shooting, makes mw wish I went shooting today.
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I shoot that Perfecta a lot myself, good price point for it at my local Walmart. Better stock up on it heard that it will be not sold much longer but that is just a rumor for now. Nice shooting makes me wish I went to the range today.
I know my SR9 likes it, I have shot everything through it & it eats it all! Nice it didn't post the first one until after I rewrote it! Okay!
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Got the 9E out and cleaned up the gun and polished the bore with JB Bore cleaner this morning. Took a full 17 round mag and target to the backyard range to see what it would do. Shooting off a sandbag rest at 25 yards, within the first 6 rounds the 4 holes in the 3 inch bulls eye showed up. I continued to shoot until the mag was empty and the results are in, using near 60 year old eyes to boot!

Extreme spread was 5 1/2 inches but if you discount the 4 in the black that were shot early in the session, the vertical spread of what seems to be where it wants to go to the right, was 4 3/8 inches with the horizontal spread at 2 1/2 inches. Need to drift the rear sight a little to the left and shoot again soon. Recoil was pretty mild compared to my LC9s and the trigger seemed nice, maybe not as nice as the LC9s but not bad at all. This will be the house and truck gun when camping or traveling. Now to look for a holster for range use!
Dang good shooting out of the box, RL. Not too shabby at all.

At 25 yards, it appears that you only had 2 "misses", but both were still body hits on the perp.

Did I mention that I LOVE these pistols?
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I am right there with you TeleGuy53, I traded my Springfield XD9 for my SR9 got a even trade for it. I am did this cause I love the feel of the pistol in hand, feels way better than the XD9 every did.
Next range visit I will take some pics also and post some targets. We should start a range pic thread of our Sr series pistols
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I am right there with you TeleGuy53, I traded my Springfield XD9 for my SR9 got a even trade for it. I am did this cause I love the feel of the pistol in hand, feels way better than the XD9 every did.
Next range visit I will take some pics also and post some targets. We should start a range pic thread of our Sr series pistols
TOTALLY agree, 45shootinfun. I handled - several times - a Glock 17 & 19, an FNS9, a Sig P320, an M&P9 and a Springfield XD9. The MOST comfortable in MY hand was the SR9, by FAR!

These pistols are so well-balanced, and so ergo-friendly, that for me, the decision was easy. The lifetime warranty and stellar reputation of the company was icing on the cake.
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Took the 9E out again today and shot the last of a box of Ruger 80 grain ARX +P that I had laying around to see what they and the gun would do at 25 yards off a sand bag rest. I was very surprised at the accuracy and consistency they showed! It was kind of windy and I didn't expect how well they did at that range and the "drill bit" shape of the nose of the bullet.

Overall there were 18 rounds in this group, shot as fast as I could comfortably recover my hold and eyesight and squeezing slowly on the trigger, maybe 30 seconds between shots. Extreme spread was 3 1/2" vertically and if you throw out the highest and lowest hits, the other 16 rounds went into a 2 3/8" X 2 1/2" square, the exact size of the box the ammo came in. I think that is very good accuracy but I'll be testing more ammo soon to find what groups the best in this gun.
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