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Old April 18th, 2015, 03:24 AM   #16
 
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Warbird, as you said the barrel may be the problem. I bought a CZ75 years ago and had constant feeding issues. CZ replaced the barrel and it has been flawless since with thousands of rounds.



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I agree on checking the feed ramp and holding it firmly. I have a lightweight Commander size 1911, a Kimber CDP. The only time it has ever malfuctioned was when someone else was shooting it and limp wristing it. It has a pretty stiff recoil spring, which helps ensure it goes back into battery, but only if you are holding it firmly. I never had malfunctions even when it was new. A 500 round break in period would be excessive with anything. Failing to load round into the chamber and go into battery sounds like a rough feed ramp or maybe the recoil spring could be stiffer. Try taking the pistol apart and dropping the rounds you were using into the chamber. If they don't drop in and fall out easily, I would think oversized rounds/undersized chamber. I use a L.E Wilson or Lyman case gauge to check all rounds that are going to be shot in my semi auto handguns and rifles.
If this were a used gun, I would say smooth up the feed ramp with some polishing compound on a felt bob held in a Dremel. But since it's a new gun, best to return it to the manufacturer and let them get it functioning properly.
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I agree on checking the feed ramp and holding it firmly. I have a lightweight Commander size 1911, a Kimber CDP. The only time it has ever malfuctioned was when someone else was shooting it and limp wristing it. It has a pretty stiff recoil spring, which helps ensure it goes back into battery, but only if you are holding it firmly. I never had malfunctions even when it was new. A 500 round break in period would be excessive with anything. Failing to load round into the chamber and go into battery sounds like a rough feed ramp or maybe the recoil spring could be stiffer. Try taking the pistol apart and dropping the rounds you were using into the chamber. If they don't drop in and fall out easily, I would think oversized rounds/undersized chamber. I use a L.E Wilson or Lyman case gauge to check all rounds that are going to be shot in my semi auto handguns and rifles.
If this were a used gun, I would say smooth up the feed ramp with some polishing compound on a felt bob held in a Dremel. But since it's a new gun, best to return it to the manufacturer and let them get it functioning properly.
I did the drop test with all my ammo. The only brand that would fall out freely was the Remington which was also the only ammo that would function at 100%. I'm convinced it was the barrel. Davidsons was the distributor for the gun shop on this particular firearm. They have a lifetime warranty to where they will [B]replace[B] a defective firearm. So I sent it back. Waiting on a new one now. They will only repair if a replacement is not available.
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Old April 18th, 2015, 03:49 PM   #19
 
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Warbird, as you said the barrel may be the problem. I bought a CZ75 years ago and had constant feeding issues. CZ replaced the barrel and it has been flawless since with thousands of rounds.
Same here with a Kahr PM9. New barrel and slide fixed everything.
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I did the drop test with all my ammo. The only brand that would fall out freely was the Remington which was also the only ammo that would function at 100%. I'm convinced it was the barrel. Davidsons was the distributor for the gun shop on this particular firearm. They have a lifetime warranty to where they will [B]replace[B] a defective firearm. So I sent it back. Waiting on a new one now. They will only repair if a replacement is not available.
Sounds like the barrel just needs to be reemed. That is a simple fix. Ruger would have sent you a shipping label and had the gun back to you shortly free of charge. At that point you would have a fixed gun.

While the Davidsons guarrenty sounds great, it means that you risk getting another gun with the same or another problem altogether. I would have only returned it thru Davidsons if Ruger did not fix the issue. Just something to consider.
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I did not mean to knock the whole bunch of 1911's.
I know they are a blast to shoot and have a VERY loyal following. They can be temperamental. They can tend to be expensive for what you get some of the time. A recent gun magazine had a test of a $2200+ custom 1911 and a $800 Smith model 66 in 357 magnum. The Smith was more accurate.
Most people love the 1911 platform because they feel great in hand and they are just plain fun to shoot! (Not to mention they will still be working when our polymer frame guns are warped or worn out years from now.)
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Sounds like the barrel just needs to be reemed. That is a simple fix. Ruger would have sent you a shipping label and had the gun back to you shortly free of charge. At that point you would have a fixed gun.

While the Davidsons guarrenty sounds great, it means that you risk getting another gun with the same or another problem altogether. I would have only returned it thru Davidsons if Ruger did not fix the issue. Just something to consider.
I considered going that route. The only problem with that is that a Ruger repair would void the Davidsons warranty. If the trip back to Ruger didn't fully fix the problem and required another trip I would be kicking myself. Anyway, if I get two problem childs in a row then I am going to be very disappointed with Ruger. Still fond of Ruger at this point.
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I considered going that route. The only problem with that is that a Ruger repair would void the Davidsons warranty. If the trip back to Ruger didn't fully fix the problem and required another trip I would be kicking myself. Anyway, if I get two problem childs in a row then I am going to be very disappointed with Ruger. Still fond of Ruger at this point.

I do understand your concern about loosing the Davidson's warranty.

Hopefully the next one will work perfectly right out of the gate like mine did. But it is possible to get two bad examples in a row especially when Ruger uses parts bins to build their 1911's from. For Ruger, all the parts are supposed to be built within certain size/shape limits and they put those parts together. They do not hand fit and they do not do too much function testing before shipping them out. This is not to say that they are bad in any way though. Ruger will stand behind their product and will even replace your gun for you if they feel it is the better route. But it does make it possible.

For me, I look at the fact that Ruger will take care of you. So I rather get that gun fixed instead of taking a risk on the next one. If it was a company that did not take such care of the customer after the purchase, then yes, the Davidson's warranty would be awesome to have.


Either way I wish you the best with your replacement.
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I do understand your concern about loosing the Davidson's warranty.

Hopefully the next one will work perfectly right out of the gate like mine did. But it is possible to get two bad examples in a row especially when Ruger uses parts bins to build their 1911's from. For Ruger, all the parts are supposed to be built within certain size/shape limits and they put those parts together. They do not hand fit and they do not do too much function testing before shipping them out. This is not to say that they are bad in any way though. Ruger will stand behind their product and will even replace your gun for you if they feel it is the better route. But it does make it possible.

For me, I look at the fact that Ruger will take care of you. So I rather get that gun fixed instead of taking a risk on the next one. If it was a company that did not take such care of the customer after the purchase, then yes, the Davidson's warranty would be awesome to have.


Either way I wish you the best with your replacement.
Thank you for the positive wish. We just look at replacement vs repair a different way. If I am so unfortunate as to get another problem firearm then I will probably send it back to Ruger for repair. The owner of the gunshop whom I believe to be honest advises me that mine is the fifth that he has sold and the first to apparently have any problems. I own and have owned many Ruger products. This is the first problem. I would be surprised if the next one was also defective. That might sour me on the Lightweight Commander but not on Ruger. At any rate it's already gone so...
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Hey Warbird 1, Sorry to hear that your lightweight Ruger is giving you trouble. I bought mine a short while ago and it has been 100% reliable with my reloads and other 1911 mags. Mine has what seems to be a very stout recoil spring but whenever I purchase a new pistol that stiff I lock the slide back and leave it alone for 2 or 3 days .
I'm sure Davidsons will make this right and don't give up on 1911's or your Ruger.
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It could be the feed ramp, but it also sounds like the extractor had too much tension.
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What ever it is it is a warranty deal. I've owned 2 CMD, Ruger replaced the first one, but not due to malfunctions. I also own a Colt lt wt commander. Both guns work well.This 500 round break in we hear about seems like so much nonsense to me. If a new gun is within specs. it should work. Looks like the mfgs just want the cust. to work out the bugs, kinda like Microsoft. I'd hate to waste 500 rounds of ammo and then have to return it for repair, then do the 500 round break in again.
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Hey Warbird 1, Sorry to hear that your lightweight Ruger is giving you trouble. I bought mine a short while ago and it has been 100% reliable with my reloads and other 1911 mags. Mine has what seems to be a very stout recoil spring but whenever I purchase a new pistol that stiff I lock the slide back and leave it alone for 2 or 3 days .
I'm sure Davidsons will make this right and don't give up on 1911's or your Ruger.
Nah...won't be giving up on 1911's. Currently own two full size 1911's. The Lightweight Commander just had problems. I don't expect the replacement to be the same. I am seeing too many good reports on this pistol. Looking forward to the replacement. I always try to keep a positive attitude.
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500 round break in period........that's ridiculous. A NEW gun that doesn't function as designed is not put together right. Now one may get "smoother" after 500, but to take 500 for it to even work........no way.
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That is not good to hear about the new CMD LWT. Hope they make it right. Please let us know how the new one shoots.
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