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Old August 18th, 2014, 05:27 AM   #16
 
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Ruger is renowned for putting guns out on the market that need at tweak or two. Peening in the SR9, front sight issues with the LC9, I believe there was an lcp recall, etc., etc. But they always seem to make it right. And that's what counts!
Yup, Ruger fixes things pretty quickly.

But Ruger isn't alone.

Remington's new R51 got recalled, people sent them back, heard nothing for months and are just now being notified of what's happening.

Springfield issued a recall on the XDs series right after introduction.

M&P brought back a bunch of Shield pistols for a problem.

Even the perfect Glock had issues with a recoil spring on their latest generation.


IMHO Ruger does pretty well.



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Just a quick note on Ruger customer service. I bought a new LC9s last week and took it to the range this past weekend. I love the trigger and overall I expect this to be my new everyday carry. For what it's worth, I have carried an LCP for the past year and I have had absolutely zero issues of any kind with this weapon. I also have a Gen 3 Glock 26 which I find to be an outstanding gun - just to "fat" for me for concealed carry. This weekend at the range, I did, however experience the problem with the new LC9s and it's guide rod/spring assembly as outlined earlier. When this happens the slide will lock up completely or fail to return completely to battery. I called Ruger-Prescott AZ this morning. They acknowledged the issue - confirmed that there is a newly designed guide rod/spring unit being used in the currently produced lc9s. They readily agreed to send me a replacement unit for my gun at no charge and confirmed shortly thereafter in an email that it had a been shipped. I find that excellent customer service is a very rare commodity in big companies today. It is great to find that Ruger still understands this. I fully expect that my new lc9s will soon become my everyday carry.
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Yep, Ruger customer service is the best.
Called last Thursday about the lc9s guide rod issue and my new assy. came in the mail today.
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New LC9s guide rod issue and fix

Got new style guide rid ordered today.
Bought the S today and took it apart to clean it. Sure enough it wasn't going into battery. Took it apart again and now it's fine again.
Ruger CS said to make sure it's centered and cut part of the spring is facing up towards the barrel.
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Yup, Ruger fixes things pretty quickly.

But Ruger isn't alone.

Remington's new R51 got recalled, people sent them back, heard nothing for months and are just now being notified of what's happening.

Springfield issued a recall on the XDs series right after introduction.

M&P brought back a bunch of Shield pistols for a problem.

Even the perfect Glock had issues with a recoil spring on their latest generation.


IMHO Ruger does pretty well.
Agreed. The difference between Ruger and Glock in my opinion is that Ruger owns up to it's problems; Glock begins to correct the problem, while never actually admitting there was a problem. Me, I'll take Ruger's approach every time...
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Got the new style guide rod today in the mail already. Hats off to Ruger for fast customer service!
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Ruger CS said to make sure it's centered and cut part of the spring is facing up towards the barrel.
Can you explain what you mean by "cut part of the spring is facing up towards the barrel"?
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New LC9s guide rod issue and fix

Where the spring meets the front of the slide, the last part of the spiral of the spring where it's cut, or ends. I'm assuming that's what CS meant.
150 rds today with the updated guide rod and it functioned 100%.
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Same issue with mine, new out of the box. It has been back to Ruger and is due to return early next week. Hopefully the guide rod head will come back with the redesigned version.

This whole episode caused me to take a closer look at my S&W Shield which has a similar guide rod head -- flat disk that sinks into a counterbore in the slide. No problems detected but I think I'll pay extra close attention to that area to make sure it remains clear of any FOD buildup.
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I was told to face the split opposite the barrel , it worked for me
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Same issue with mine, new out of the box. It has been back to Ruger and is due to return early next week. Hopefully the guide rod head will come back with the redesigned version.

This whole episode caused me to take a closer look at my S&W Shield which has a similar guide rod head -- flat disk that sinks into a counterbore in the slide. No problems detected but I think I'll pay extra close attention to that area to make sure it remains clear of any FOD buildup.
I have one of the first Shield 9's that came out right after Shot Show and have had zero issues with it and over 6000 rounds through it. Many of the problems were operator related and not cleaning the weapon of storage lube and cleaning it prior to shooting. Limp wristing, proper shooting technics too.

Been looking at the LC9s. Glad I took a look at this thread about it. I still plan on getting one, NOW I know what to look for and a good heads up about what's going on.
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I just purchased a LC9s and it did the same thing. I took it apart and Froglubed it up and I have not been able to get it to fail. I even took the rod/spring out and re put it back to see if it would fail and I couldn't get it to fail. I am still going to call Ruger and get the updated rod/spring.
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Bought my LC9s today and it has the new guide rod with the cone end.
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Ruger is sending me the new guide rod with the cone also. My question is, how do you install it? They said they were sending the rod, but not the spring. I understood this to not be the recoil spring assembly then. If so, how do I disassemble the assembly to install the new rod with the cone? I searched around, but was unable to locate any instructions besides just doing the simple disassembly of the slide itself.

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I have one of the first Shield 9's that came out right after Shot Show and have had zero issues with it and over 6000 rounds through it. Many of the problems were operator related and not cleaning the weapon of storage lube and cleaning it prior to shooting. Limp wristing, proper shooting technics too.

Been looking at the LC9s. Glad I took a look at this thread about it. I still plan on getting one, NOW I know what to look for and a good heads up about what's going on.
Thanks for the comments on your S&W Shield and the 6k round count. Mine happens to be a .40 and so far no problems. Same with my Ruger SR9 and SR40 although all three are under 500 rounds each.

As for my LC9s, it came back from Ruger today with the new guide rod head (cone head). They test fired it with 28 rounds without malfunction so I'll try to get out to the range this weekend and see what it will do. I got this with the intention of making it my backup EDC.

I do have a prediction to make about one other thing Ruger may redesign on the LC9s -- if they haven't already. That would be the safety lever. The "V" serrations on both sides of that thin tang line up to make a series of stress concentrations. Seems like a break waiting to happen. Even so, the stub that would be left looks big enough to operate the lever. Time and Ruger will tell.
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