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Old December 30th, 2016, 05:52 PM   #1
 
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Question Found 2 Savage Model 99's

Hi guys I have a real yearning to get a Savage Model 99. I found 2, deal #1 one a 99e .243 Win. Mfg 1956 rotary mag. No brass round counter very clean wood & bluing. The owner wants to trade his rifle & 200 rounds of ammo for my S&W Model 66 No dash .357 4 inch barrel. His asking price on his Savage $600.00. Now deal # 2 another Savage Model 99 in 300 Savage, wood looks good it needs a machine screw to hold the forearm stock to the barrel. It sounds like the screw in place now is too long. Also needs sling swivels etc. the pictures the bluing on the barrel looks good but the bluing looks splotchy on the receiver sides. Might need to be wiped down. Seller is asking $450.00 wants my Kahr CM9 + $50.00 for his rifle. My problem starting another caliber means needing brass not cheap for .300 Savage set of Die's bullets & powder. Currently I have a good supply of H 4831 & IMR 4831 so I probably will need powder. This deal means more investment to get shooting this rifle. I think this rifle is in good condition but needs cleaned up some. I have seen S&W's like mine for $600-$700.00 so I do not know where value to value goes with deal # 1 plus where deal # 1 is a 99e does it mean even back in 1956 it will have a cheaper birch wood stock?? The wood looks lighter in looks grain etc vs walnut. Any way lots of yah dah on my part!!! I would greatly appreciate comments on value trade etc. I wasn't looking and then a Savage Model 99 .243 shows up!



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There is a Savage in 243 for sale on the other Ruger site in the classifieds
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A gun is only worth what you are willing to pay. If you are not using your smith and really wanting a savage then it may be worth it. Same with the other trade situation.
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True also what year did the rotary mag still used but no round counter on the rifle?? I am thinking the first Model 99e .243 is not a 1956 vintage??
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I checked my powder, I do have some powders that are listed for some .300 Savage reloads. So invest into a set of Lee dies, brass & bullets & I will have what's needed. I much prefer trading my Kahr CM9 vs my S&W mod. 66 . I still shoot the S&W, I haven't fired a shot thru the Kahr. Also talked to the guy on the phone about the Sav. .300 his rifle actually is in quite good shape. Hoping to look at it Sunday, I will keep things posted as this progress's right now I am kinda stoked. The .300 Savage is actually what got the.308 Win. going! Much appreciate the comments and thoughts that's why I like the Ruger Forum!!!
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I checked my powder, I do have some powders that are listed for some .300 Savage reloads. So invest into a set of Lee dies, brass & bullets & I will have what's needed. I much prefer trading my Kahr CM9 vs my S&W mod. 66 . I still shoot the S&W, I haven't fired a shot thru the Kahr. Also talked to the guy on the phone about the Sav. .300 his rifle actually is in quite good shape. Hoping to look at it Sunday, I will keep things posted as this progress's right now I am kinda stoked. The .300 Savage is actually what got the.308 Win. going! Much appreciate the comments and thoughts that's why I like the Ruger Forum!!!
My dad did a fair bit of hunting with the rotary magazine 99's in .243 and .300 Savage. He loves the .300's, often says it may be the ideal deer cartridge and I find it hard to disagree. A very good cartridge and one I have been hunting for a "deal" on one for quite a while.
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I also suspect the .243 is newer than 1956 as it doesn't have the round counter.

If you get the .300 Savage, pm me and I'll give you some tips and pet loads for it.

My "Meat Gun" is a 1954 99R.

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Well is not the 300 Savage BALLISTICALY speaking a 7.62 NATO/308 Winchester ...especially when hand loaded????????


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Well is not the 300 Savage BALLISTICALY speaking a 7.62 NATO/308 Winchester ...especially when hand loaded????????


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Not exactly... My .308 handloads and my Dad's .300 Savage handloads with 180's were about 200 FPS slower. My 180's were going at 2595 in the chrony and his 180's were at 2365. So there's the difference with max loads of IMR4064 in the .300 and W760 in the .308.
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There are some differences .308vs.300 Sav. but I was surprised I have a very old Speer reloading manual there are some .300 Sav. Loads listed in the 2750 fps range that's not too shabby! Aqualung I will PM you if I get the .300 I basically wouldn't mind a loading in 125-150's. Here's a question guys Hornady's 30 caliber lever Revolution bullets aka 30/30 140 grain bullet. Heavier then the 130's yet lighter then 150's wondering if this bullet would work up nice for a deer hunting load?? I don't want to get my hopes up but hoping tomorrow I will hear back from the owner of the .300 Sav. I think he is serious on working a trade he has called me & also said he was able to get the wood forearm machine screw for it. We will see!
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The 140's are lead free... they will hold together and work well I'd assume in the 2700 fps range. I have heard good things from the .30-30 at 2400 fps. Heck you might be able to get incredible deer performance out of them.
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There are some differences .308vs.300 Sav. but I was surprised I have a very old Speer reloading manual there are some .300 Sav. Loads listed in the 2750 fps range that's not too shabby! Aqualung I will PM you if I get the .300 I basically wouldn't mind a loading in 125-150's. Here's a question guys Hornady's 30 caliber lever Revolution bullets aka 30/30 140 grain bullet. Heavier then the 130's yet lighter then 150's wondering if this bullet would work up nice for a deer hunting load?? I don't want to get my hopes up but hoping tomorrow I will hear back from the owner of the .300 Sav. I think he is serious on working a trade he has called me & also said he was able to get the wood forearm machine screw for it. We will see!
Mine likes 150gr Hornady SP, SST and FMJ. Hornady supposedly makes a special SST for the .300 Savage, but I've had good luck with the standard versions. What is challenging (reportedly) is the short neck of the .300 Savage. I use the Lee FCD and have had no issues.

I only started loading 130gr SP bullets for my .300 Blackout, so may toy with the 130gr for the .300 Savage.

On your idea with the FTX bullets, they may not work well for you. Those bullets are designed for lower muzzle velocities of the .30-30 and may blow apart on impact or shed the jacket in flight. Hornady #9 does show a 140gr "Marlin Express" that seems to be a bit more robust, but they do nto show dAta for their use. I'm not sure on availability.

Good luck on getting it.

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That's a very nice rifle there! I hope that things will work out, to me other then the .303 Savage the .300 Savage seems to be the natural caliber along with the .250/3000 Savage for a Savage Model 99. The .300 Savage seems to have a very positive history as a great hunting caliber for medium sized game. But also has the power to derail a elk!!! But if I get this rifle my goal is to acquire 200 rounds of new unprimed brass and then start some reloads but I just want a nice mild peasant load to shoot. These older Model 99's with a 24 inch barrel and tapered down schnable forearm's these rifles are very nice!!! Just a classic look. I know the seller that has the Model 99e .243 he wants to work a trade on my S&W Mod.66 but I am going to hold out for the .300 it's not the 99e. So one big plus for me is a brass round counter & a rotary magazine!!!
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That's a very nice rifle there! I hope that things will work out, to me other then the .303 Savage the .300 Savage seems to be the natural caliber along with the .250/3000 Savage for a Savage Model 99. The .300 Savage seems to have a very positive history as a great hunting caliber for medium sized game. But also has the power to derail a elk!!! But if I get this rifle my goal is to acquire 200 rounds of new unprimed brass and then start some reloads but I just want a nice mild peasant load to shoot. These older Model 99's with a 24 inch barrel and tapered down schnable forearm's these rifles are very nice!!! Just a classic look. I know the seller that has the Model 99e .243 he wants to work a trade on my S&W Mod.66 but I am going to hold out for the .300 it's not the 99e. So one big plus for me is a brass round counter & a rotary magazine!!!
While I've never tried .243, I think you'll be better suited with the .300 Savage.

One word of advice is to buy a couple boxes of factory .300 Savage (Dad's* and mine both like Remington 150gr Core-Lokd) to get the feel for how the loads and rifle should perform. After you get the "benchmark", then, you can compare your loads. That will also identify any issues you may discover with the rifle without adding the variable of "could it have been my loads?". Besides, that then generates brass for you to reload.

Hoping the deal swings your way to get the .300.

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*Dad's rifle is a '54 Model 99EG with the schnaubel forearm.

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