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Old December 1st, 2016, 02:22 PM   #1
 
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Durable lever action...

Hi guys,

Looking to get a lever action in 44 Magnum to match my SRH. I've read where some company's products use aluminum actions, plastic parts, etc. One company I read this about was the Henry, which I personally love and thought of buying.

Is this just people on forums being dumb? Are some lever actions tougher than others?

I ask because I will probably be putting some heavy hunting rounds through it. And figured I'd ask here, knowing that I'll get the truth from owners of different fire arms.

I've learned in the gun world, people bash companies from no real background in ownership, just from a cost or snooty standpoint. I've out shot many Kimbers with my Rock Island Armory, and saved hundreds to boot, because I asked many questions, like the ones above.

Thank you in advance for any advice



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An aluminum lever would not bother me I do not know it is aluminum just an example.
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Henry's are nice rifles. I had the Big Boy in 357. It had a VERY smooth action. The actions on Henry's are similar to Marlins I believe.
I ended up selling the Big Boy off because it was a very heavy rifle in my opinion. I think those tip the scales around 8 lbs.
I replaced it with a Rossi M92. The Rossi rifles are copied off the Winchester actions, which through my research are considered "tougher" actions. Is that true? I don't know, but those two big locking lugs coming up through the top of the receiver sure do look nice!
Like I said, the Henry rifles are very nice and they even make an all steel version now that weighs about a pound less I believe.
I just fell in love with the little Rossi. At about 5 lbs it handles beautifully. After slicking up the action with instructions from Nate Jones I think the action on the Rossi rivals the Henry.
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I can see a aluminum receiver on a .22/.22Magnum & 17HMR because Henry does make them currently they probably have some alloy that makes them stronger but the lock up the action Bolt and barrel is steel to steel. Browning I think also makes the light weight Model 81's this way with some models. I personally do not like the thoughts of a aluminum receiver in a center fire rifle but with modern designs it probably very strong. Yes I also feel that Henry, Rossi as well are basically using Marlin designs with the Henry levers in action lock up etc but make some minor changes such as how to load shells into the rifle's the Rossi Rio Grande give me a break........totally looks like a Marlin 336 knock off!!!!! Durable Lever action well that depends on your needs and usage. I have Marlins for my center fire calibers 30/30 & .357 in Henry's I have 2 both in .22LR very nice rifles. Durable yes. Its all up to the user & needs but the main issue is to take care of the rifles once you get them!!!
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Been around Henry for years and a few others. All I know is, it's hard to beat a Henry Big Boy. Reliable, smooth and rugged.
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Ok, so unlike S&W vs Ruger, there really is no lever action that stands out as being able to handle tougher hunting loads better than others, besides maybe the winchesters and clone having 2 lare lugs. I like the winchesters, too, but I'm partial to winchester because I have a 70 in Rem 223 heavy varmint barrel that's just insanely awesome! But I also love the octagon barrels of the Henrys..... oh gun world.... why can't it always just be a clear choice? Haha.... Guess that's the fun of it.

Thanks everyone for the input
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I have A Henry and a pair of Rossi 92's in 357 and 45 colt. The Rossi's are lighter but the Henry's action was smother from the get go. I did action jobs on the two Rossi's and they are right there with the Henry now. Cant go wrong with either in a 44 mag.
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When I was shopping for my first lever gun in a pistol cal. I looked at Rossi and Henry. It just so happened that the Rossi I was fondling just seemed goofy when I was aiming it. Now I know that Rossi makes a fine lever gun and has lots of satisfied followers so don't take this as a bash please. Turned out...the barrel was bent on this brand new .45 colt and it was pulled from the display and promptly sent back. That was my first look and sadly, my first impression of a Rossi. I walked out of that store with a brand new Henry Steel .45 Colt. I'm still developing some cast boolit loads for it ( yup, I said Boolit ) I've had no leading but can't get anything smaller than a 1 1/2" group @ 75 yrds. yet. I'm too fussy I guess. I will tell you though..with a Hornady 250 gr. XTP on top of 10.5 grns. of Unique this gun shoots clover leaf groups. That is NOT a published load in any of my manuals and I am NOT recommending it to anyone.
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Marlin, either the older JM or new production are fine. Since the OP is asking about 44mag there are limited options. Henry's are to heavy and don't have a loading gate. Rossi has their fans but I'm not one of them. I will buy a Marlin or a Savage 99 over all others.
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Don't they make a Glock 19 lever-action?


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Henry Big Boy rifles are made plenty strong. They come in either brass receiver models with octagon barrels or steel receiver models with round barrels. The design of both is similar to that of a Marlin 336. As others have stated, a JM stamped Marlin 1894 is also an excellent choice.
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I think the Marlin 1894 & 336 design especially the JM stamped rifles are the best when it comes to the straight walled revolver calibers and 30/30 type of rifles. The Henry's and Rossi's are a basic Marlin design with minor changes. I haven't had a Henry centerfire lever rifle but if Henry comes out with a Big Boy Steel in .327 FM I will buy one. My favorite smaller lever action rifle comes down to 2 designs the Marlin 1894 & the Winchester Model 92. Both are very strong actions and really are the best for the revolver caliber rifles aka .357/.38 Spec, .44 Mag/.44 Spec., .45 LC. The two Marlin 1894's that I have are really nice rifles But the Rossi Model 92's are really nice as well.
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The Henry in a steel frame would be plenty strong but the Henry lacks a loading gate. Not a deal breaker but a point to consider.

The Marlin design is very good and well proven. There's was lots of internet chatter about the Remington made Marlins (Remington's parent company has owned Marlin since 2007) but I haven't seen any truly bad Remington manufactured Marlins. The quality issues are mostly cosmetic that I've seen and even those weren't serious.

The Marlins break down into two groups 1894 & 336 designs. They employ different receiver designs and different locking systems but they are both fine for pistol cartridges.

The Rossi is a copy of the old Winchester 1892 and they can be decent guns with a caveat - They're not as finely finished. I had a Rossi in 38/357 that was pretty rough internally. It worked, but needed help. After I spent some time cleaning up the action it was a great rifle. If you're not mechanically inclined and lack the tools needed; I would suggest staying with the Marlin or Henry with a strong edge towards the Marlin.

If you're a bullet caster you might want to read this:
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I read alot of bad things with Rossi, mostly from there Judge line, which is funny, because I had 2, the snub (which is ridiculous considering the cylinder is longer than the barrel, haha) and the Circuit Judge-the 45/410 rifle, never had any issues. I sold both, kind of regret the Circuit Judge, I could get 50% of clays and it was fun. Could get at 30 yds a decent pattern, but u reload .410 as well. My only complaint was when shooting max loads in the 410 to shells would not eject easily at all, like, need a rubber mallet to pound the ejector hard!!! Could only use these loads 3 rounds at a time. And this was annoying to me. And you could eject all 5 rounds because of the stock, even after I sanded it down-did a cool black stain on it, got caught in sprinkling rainbow cell and the factory red stain on the stock rubbed off on my hands.

I have looked at the Rossi revolver rifle in 44 Mag. But again, get weary of it. I just love the looks of them, sexy products sell, but they rarely seem to last. Take it from a guy who who used to flip custom motorcycles, haha...
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I read alot of bad things with Rossi, mostly from there Judge line, which is funny, because I had 2, the snub (which is ridiculous considering the cylinder is longer than the barrel, haha) and the Circuit Judge-the 45/410 rifle, never had any issues. I sold both, kind of regret the Circuit Judge, I could get 50% of clays and it was fun. Could get at 30 yds a decent pattern, but u reload .410 as well. My only complaint was when shooting max loads in the 410 to shells would not eject easily at all, like, need a rubber mallet to pound the ejector hard!!! Could only use these loads 3 rounds at a time. And this was annoying to me. And you could eject all 5 rounds because of the stock, even after I sanded it down-did a cool black stain on it, got caught in sprinkling rainbow cell and the factory red stain on the stock rubbed off on my hands.

I have looked at the Rossi revolver rifle in 44 Mag. But again, get weary of it. I just love the looks of them, sexy products sell, but they rarely seem to last. Take it from a guy who who used to flip custom motorcycles, haha...
I read horror stories about the Rossis too, but have found none to be true with my rifle. I did have to send my Henry Big Boy back twice for feed/ejection issues. They did fix it to be silly smooth, but it did have to go back twice.
With all guns a good inspection before taking possession is needed.
All the gun's mentioned are nice. I don't think you would go wrong with any of them.
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