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Old April 19th, 2016, 04:32 AM   #1
 
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Winchester 1873

Just found out Winchester is reproducing the 1873 in all things .357, has anyone any insight to this fine piece, I handle one at the local Sportsman it was the rifle 24" barrel in blue, it felt a bit muzzle heavy due to the 24" barrel but the action was tight and smooth and the trigger wasn't to bad at all. My taste run the short rifle in 20" color case harden, they said there's one at another store. And no cross bolt safety just the leveler like the 94. Input would be nice.



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Old April 19th, 2016, 04:37 AM   #2
 
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Recently sold my Henry 357 and was looking for a lighter, more handy replacement. I seriously looked at the Winchesters and Uberti 1873s, but in the end went with a little Rossi 92 20" barrel instead. For 1/2 the cost of a Winchester or Uberti the little 92's can be slicked up pretty nice. Now, do I want a 1873? Heck yeah, but like I said, they are running $1000+ Maybe at a later date for me.
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I'm going to break my bank account and buy a Model 1873. I'm like most of you and have always wanted one. I lucked out recently and have a guy who wants to do a little trade work and has offered me an original 1873 made in 1881, though it's pretty ragged and not an everyday shooter. That being said it caused me to want a newer production 1873 and Winchester now offers a modern reproduction. HOWEVER, after looking into this it appears the Winchester reproduction is made by a Japanese firm who added about a dozen new parts into it which makes it not an actual copy and stamps a big banner on the barrel saying made in Japan. It also offers them in 45LC which is my caliber of choice. This new Japanese Winchester 1873 has only been offered since 2013 and in limited numbers.

So the next option and one that I chose is the Uberti version that more closely stays in historical context and produces a better Winchester 1873 clone. Anyway today I will tell the LGS to get me one and he has said it's only going to be a couple of days to get one. While I would have wanted to own a new Winchester branded and USA manufactured one....that isn't possible anymore.

I have Rossi's 92's in 45LC(Stainless) and 45-70's (kick the snot out of me) and a Henry Big Boy(beautiful) in 45LC. Just need to get the 1873 and check that off the bucket list.

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I've owned multiple 1873's (all Uberti's). I'm down to two, a 357 and a 45 Colt. I love them. Both of the ones I own are 20" barrels and I like the balance better than the 24" I used to own. As has been noted there are some slight mechanical differences between the modern Winchester (Miroku) version and the Uberti version. Somewhere inside the Miroku is a roller bearing as opposed to a simple bushing on the Uberti. They both look and function exactly the same. The Miroku is slightly more expensive ($50-100) but the purists insist it's worth it because it says "Winchester" on the barrel. I like them both and would buy whichever one was available all else being equal (caliber, barrel length, straight stock or pistol grip, etc).

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I am going for it, told them if they can get a short rifle color case harden get it, .357 I've wanted one all my life, its how or never. We'll see if they can come thru.
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Winchester 1873

Well I got it, feels good in hand smooth to shoulder, wood to metal fit is as good as you can get in a production gun, after moving the action dust cover back, it's as smooth as silk. Came with grade 3 wood. I am very pleased with it, the real acid test is next how does it shoot? Have the day to myself out to the range.
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Bonk the saving did take a HIT to say the least, but the wife was good with it.
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PS wasn't the best light for the photo's today heavy over cast.
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That is a gorgeous rifle. Congrats!
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Beautiful rifle, congrats!
Looking forward to a range report.
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Turnbull does the case hardening no wonder it looks god.
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Guys it shoots better then this old eyes can aim. Two different loads were tested, a 158 gr hard cast SWC, *-* brass, CCI primer. 6 grs. of HS-6 and the same bullet with 4.5 grs. of SR 7625 same primer and case. its my wheel gun plinking load, feed.fired, ejected all. Groups ran right at 2" off the sand bags at 25 yds. Next was 13grs of AA #9 Nosler 158 gr JHP same case, I couldn't tell you the Vel. it was to over cast and I wouldn't of had enough time to get it set up, before it started to rain. With a little practice I feel I can tighten the groups a bit, with the jhp's was ringing the 100 yd dong petty regular and about 1.5 off the rest at 25 yds. Going to up the 7625 load a .5 gr. I have about a pound left good way to burn it up then look at others powders for a lite load. All and all couldn't be more pleased I've waited along time for this one. Didn't even know they extincted till last Saturday. And the best part the wife was all for it.

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Took the 73 out Tuesday night to the range, was just beautiful mid 60's no wind, when I got there a guy was just packing up at my favorite bay, had the place to myself. Run my mid range load which is.

*-* case
AA #9 12grs
CCI 500 SPP
Rimrock 38/.357 .358dia 158gr SWC w/gc a deep hollow point

Feed, Fired, Ejected all and its smoothing up a bit more, round count is about 125 how give or take 10. In the new Handloader, Peace does a nice piece on the .357 and uses the same bullets with AA #7, going to load some up, climb the ladder and see how it goes, save two grains of powder per shell, worth a look.
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Smile 1873

Worked up a new mid range load for the 73 as follows.

* - * Brass
158 gr. SWC
AA #7 10 grs.
WSP
OACL 1.855

OACL is a bit longer then suggested, but with a roll crimp it spot on in the cripping grove, FFE with out a hitch, off hand at 75 yds 4-6" groups, picking off clay's stick in the back stop, and rolling the shooting ball out to 60+. Petty dang happy with her. Smoothing up a bit more with rounds thru it. Won't have to do a thing to it.
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