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Old August 26th, 2016, 04:30 PM   #31
 
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That is such a sexy looking rifle, (is it legal to have sex with a rifle, forget the moral or mechanics of it) just one sexy rifle.
I thought the very, same thang....

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Old August 27th, 2016, 05:40 AM   #32
 
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HR that's a fine looking 73, smooth as hot body oil when you work her, I love mine, it shoot's better then I can shoot it. Nice find. A hey its only money!!!!
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OP I keep coming back to this thread to admire your rifle not sure why they are calling that a grade 3 Walnut it looks like beautiful furniture to me , I have some small pieces similar in my shop and they are saved for special projects.
Sure is one fine looking rifle . My b-day is coming up so have been showing my wife as well, hint hint
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Here my 73's .
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LC you couldn't go wrong, from what I've sen there already going up, you figure that a 73 hasn't had Winchester rolled on the barrel in over a hundred years, and the one to get is what they call the short rifle 20" barrel, good luck with the wife.
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I agree with mtman59714... listen to him. The one to get is the 20" short rifle... case-hardened, if you can.

I got the deluxe... because I already have an Cimarron-Uberti made.... .357...

Sold the bottom gun in this pic... but still have the NIB... .357... still has that lil-bitty red tag on the lever....



My .357 by Cimarron-Uberti... appears to be flawless in it's manufacture. I just don't know how it shoots. Like I said... it's NIB....

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Nice HR, love them 73's, shoot it you only live once.
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Just a little color case hardening photos of a beautiful 73 I own.






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Hey... sfc rick... that is one fine-lookin' rifle. The color case hardening looks as good as if Doug Turnbull did it...
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Got to say I too love the way the 73 looks and feels ..would own one today but it is too heavy for my twice rebuilt shoulders

Dandy looking guns all but I urge some caution and investigation on your part with regards to the 1873 action's strength when you push the high end of performance

I specifically recall printed reloading manuals who had sections both pistol and rifle and the when a pistol caliber was listed in rifle it was qualified with "1892 only"

Years ago I talked to Bob Hodgdon one day about it and it was not the metal but the weak toggle lock up system

Now I cannot imagine a current production rifle not being modified in some way to improve the original weak lockup system

But certainly you guys shooting the old ones keep the loads light ..and if you have a new one but want to push the RPM's ..please make your own case as to its ability to handle loads on the high side pressure wise

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Hey... sfc rick... that is one fine-lookin' rifle. The color case hardening looks as good as if Doug Turnbull did it...
Thank you, it's a purdy one at that and a fine rifle. I spent a few days asking around and looking at which version of a 1873 replica I wanted, a Japanese made one, or a Italian made one..... The Italian won out and looks every bit like the Original.
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BB that's the deal with the current Winchester they changed the toggle link,and add a roller bearing to strength the action for higher presser loads. the purest scream you changed it. but the liability thing rears its head. SR nice UB by the way. What cal. did you go with?
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Got to say I too love the way the 73 looks and feels ..would own one today but it is too heavy for my twice rebuilt shoulders

Dandy looking guns all but I urge some caution and investigation on your part with regards to the 1873 action's strength when you push the high end of performance

I specifically recall printed reloading manuals who had sections both pistol and rifle and the when a pistol caliber was listed in rifle it was qualified with "1892 only"

Years ago I talked to Bob Hodgdon one day about it and it was not the metal but the weak toggle lock up system

Now I cannot imagine a current production rifle not being modified in some way to improve the original weak lockup system

But certainly you guys shooting the old ones keep the loads light ..and if you have a new one but want to push the RPM's ..please make your own case as to its ability to handle loads on the high side pressure wise

Be safe guys
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Give that man a... Ceegar! Man don't want to shoot a lot of high-pressure-smokeless... in them old'un's.

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The 1873 in 44-40 that I received last week was a Winchester made in Japan (picture shown earlier)... one like this one from their website, to be exact.

Winchester Sporter 1873

Actually had some buyer's remorse before the rifle arrived at my FFL... but since receiving it, I am now real happy with the purchase. mtman59714 was correct in that the Miroku factory address is located on the barrel... and that is a minus, in my book. However, in the past, I have been extremely pleased with Miroku's quality and craftmanship as they have made the Browning firearms.

Will take pictures later... but I am glad I bought this well-made firearmů

One final item of note: Not sure that the current batch of actual Winchesters (made in Japan)... have some parts that are interchangeable with the originals from back in the late 1800's.... for instance, the receiver sideplate. But I have read and have been told by a gunsmith that the Italian replicas (like my Uberti-made Cimmaron)... do not have interchangeable parts with the originals. I'll need to research my Winchester to see... but I believe that all of the current production of the 1873's probably have slight modifications from the original 1873 Winchesters.

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HR you are spot on, the Miroku have been changed, to handle the higher psi loads, it say right in the paper work with the gun good with ANY load. Works for me I purchased it to shoot it not look at it.
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