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Old October 15th, 2013, 12:55 PM   #1
 
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Why do GP100's always seem to be "second" choice?

When I was researching a new 357 revolver, seems like the 686 was "the gun" to get over the GP100...Despite some of the final conclusions on the 2 revolvers being pretty much equal... Why is this?



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Welcome to the forum. I did a side by side comparison between the two guns and went with the GP100. The Smith had a little more panache' but the Ruger felt like it will never let you down when you need it most. I want to look at another 357 for C&C possibly and once again will look at both weapons closely. Brand loyalty is good for buying cars and fishing rods, but when it comes to weapons...............it doesn't work for me. It is what I am comfortable with and what works best!!!

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A good 686 is a lot of fun to shoot. They are the Perfect size, with an excellent trigger, great fit and finish, and very accurate. That being said, a GP can be every bit as good as a 686. I think smith and wesson hand guns, especially revolvers, have always been a sort of status symbol when compared to the working man's Ruger. You have to justify the extra hundreds spent by making the GP appear inferior. There are some that won't touch a Smith in favor of the Colt. Personally I really like both, they both will do the same thing, just different designs. If you have not shot a 686 you owe it to yourself to do so. It's no "better" than a GP, but it is different, in a good way. You will see why people love them.
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I own both and admire and find them equally desirable. You’ll find a lot of GP100 vs 686 threads because they're the finest 357 revolvers currently in production–in terms of quality and build. Arguing about it is somewhat irrelevant to me. People are just proud of what they have and will argue it to death. Each has it’s own merits. I say get them both, you'll be happy. That’s what I did.
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I own both and admire and find them equally desirable. You’ll find a lot of GP100 vs 686 threads because they're the finest 357 revolvers currently in production–in terms of quality and build. Arguing about it is somewhat irrelevant to me. People are just proud of what they have and will argue it to death. Each has it’s own merits. I say get them both, you'll be happy. That’s what I did.
Same here , own both , love em both
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Well when I made my mind up to get a .357 revolver back a year and half ago I went straight to the GP100, which was at the time my third Ruger handgun, (and I've an added two more Ruger handguns since then). I wanted it blued, with a 4" barrel, wearing the Hogue rubber grips and that's what I got and still thrilled today to have it.

I have nothing against S&W, they're a fine gun as well. It's just not what I wanted. While doing the pre-purchase research the GP always seemed to come out on top in my comparison excercise. It's really all about individual taste.

Good luck with your decision!
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A lot of people like S&W.

When I bought my first GP100, I compared it side by side with the 686. The fit and finish were the same.

I liked the modular screw-free disassembly of the GP100 and also liked the transfer bar mechanism. I liked the bazillions of grip choices available for the GP100. I also liked it because it didn't have an internal lock.

After shooting it for a while, the trigger was every bit as good as a 686.

My opinion is that many people that choose the 686 do it because of brand recognition or in fact to "collect". My buddy has five or six S&W revolvers. Know what he carries in his car? An SP101.... just sayin'.
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When I saw the title, I assumed you meant that single actions Blackhawks are first choice, double action GPs are second. What's an S&W, is that those old green stamps Mom collected from the grocery store?
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I owned a 686-1 four inch for a couple years...I never shot it as well as I shoot the 3" GP100 fixed sight I own now.
I bought the 686 when I was on a Smith kick. It never felt as good in my hand as the Model 15 Combat Masterpiece that inspired me to buy it. Eventually, I tired of the 686 and sold it...still have the Model 15.
BTW...I like the trigger on my 2013 produced GP more than the trigger on any of my (well used) Smiths. The DA pull is much nicer on the GP, and it has had no work or spring changes.
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I own Smiths ,Rugers and a Colt and all three are top shelf ,each of them having a virtue over the others .Smith and Wesson builds a well tuned ,professional revolver with more models then any other . The Colts are a work of art with finishes that are second to none and build a SA Revolver that has been the bench mark of production . Ruger seems to have the working man in mind and has built firearms and Revolvers like one would build a tank!The 686 is a awesome revolver and has earned its title but only by a hair and the GP 100 fans know it and are very happy because the extra 200$ they saved buys a lot of ammo
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Let's face it, Smith & Wesson was making double action revolvers for decades before the first Ruger handgun was ever shipped from their garage/factory. So, Smith & Wesson has the home field advantage when it comes to name recognition and brand reputation. However, when most serious shooters do their comparison, they see the advantages of both revolver designs. They can't go wrong with either choice. I own both and would not want to part with either one.

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My GP100 was my second choice in the sense that I was looking for a Speed Six.

But wproct nailed it, Smith just had a huge head start and built a reputation before Ruger was born.

And P89DC, you're thinking of "S&H". Maybe that was Smith & Heckler.
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The GP-100 is a nice gun but in my book the 686

and the Model 66 that came before it are some of the finest revolvers ever made. I don't think the GP-100 measures up. That from a person who owns one of each.

My opinion is the finish and the trigger pull and smoothness makes the difference.
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Anybody else remember the S&W vs Ruger ads that started with Ruger saying thicker is better, referring to frame thickness between the 686 vs GP100, and Smith's follow up add with a revolver shaped hamburger with the tag line of thicker is better in something's but not gun frames? Pretty funny ad for the 1980's, my self if its a pre-lock 686, I would go for it but after that the Ruger wins by a small margin. imho
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I suppose it's like pickup trucks. No matter how good a truck Dodge ever builds, for a lotta folks they'll never be as good as a Chevy or a Ford.
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