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Old January 24th, 2016, 08:19 AM   #91
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As a gunsmith, I cut my teeth on S&W DA revolvers. When you have a shop, you see the good the bad, and the ugly when it comes to wear and serviceability. By the time I opened my own shop ...no doubt, S&Ws were more popular than Rugers but the ratio of guns that came in for repair was about 50 S&Ws for each Ruger. When Security-Sixes, GP100s, and SP101s came on the market, the ratio of S&Ws versus Rugers in circulation started leveling out so you would expect to see more Rugers come in for repair .... but that never happened.

I was always a S&W K-frame fan and later a L-frame fan. I still own a good many K-frame 38s and 22s but just one L-frame Mod 686-2. No one can deny ... these S&Ws are great guns but they do not hold up as well as Rugers when it comes to endshake, damaged frames, and worn cylinders. This is especially true if you shoot magnum loads.

As time went on, I bought my first blued Ruger Security-Six 4". This is a great gun ... gave it to my son-in-law. After I retired, I finally bought a 4" GP100, then a 3" SP101, and finally a 6" GP100. I shoot the tar out of the Rugers while my S&Ws stay tucked away in the safe.

RichKeagy, Yes, S&W Mod 686s used to be available in a high polish finish but now are a "brushed" finish. My old 686-2 is a high polish finish and so is my Ruger GP100 ... catalog number is GKGP-141 ... the first G = high polish finish ... only 500 made in 4".

Here's my GKGP-141:



And a poor photo of my S&W 686-2 that is really a lot more shiny than it shows:



Finally, here's my 6" 1995 vintage GP100 ... a really excellent specimen:




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Was just rooting around in my computer and ran across this again, from when Smith maybe felt a little threatened by the GP100:
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Beautiful firearms. I had a 1989 GP100 6" stainless...looked EXACTLY like yours. I sold it back in college (around 1996) to help pay for a Hawaii vacation. REGRETTED it ever since. My early 80's Security Six stainless has served me well, but always wanted another 6" GP100. Recently picked up a new "Brushed" version. Although it's a great weapon, the fit and finish doesn't compare to my older one.

As a side note, always enjoy your knowledge and your posts Iowegan. I lurk way more than post. Always enjoy yours.

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As a gunsmith, I cut my teeth on S&W DA revolvers. When you have a shop, you see the good the bad, and the ugly when it comes to wear and serviceability. By the time I opened my own shop ...no doubt, S&Ws were more popular than Rugers but the ratio of guns that came in for repair was about 50 S&Ws for each Ruger. When Security-Sixes, GP100s, and SP101s came on the market, the ratio of S&Ws versus Rugers in circulation started leveling out so you would expect to see more Rugers come in for repair .... but that never happened.

I was always a S&W K-frame fan and later a L-frame fan. I still own a good many K-frame 38s and 22s but just one L-frame Mod 686-2. No one can deny ... these S&Ws are great guns but they do not hold up as well as Rugers when it comes to endshake, damaged frames, and worn cylinders. This is especially true if you shoot magnum loads.

As time went on, I bought my first blued Ruger Security-Six 4". This is a great gun ... gave it to my son-in-law. After I retired, I finally bought a 4" GP100, then a 3" SP101, and finally a 6" GP100. I shoot the tar out of the Rugers while my S&Ws stay tucked away in the safe.

RichKeagy, Yes, S&W Mod 686s used to be available in a high polish finish but now are a "brushed" finish. My old 686-2 is a high polish finish and so is my Ruger GP100 ... catalog number is GKGP-141 ... the first G = high polish finish ... only 500 made in 4".

Here's my GKGP-141:



And a poor photo of my S&W 686-2 that is really a lot more shiny than it shows:



Finally, here's my 6" 1995 vintage GP100 ... a really excellent specimen:
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As a long time GP100 fan, I really enjoyed reading Iowegean's comments of affection for the GP100. I know that his comments are rooted simply from his year's of experience with double action revolvers, and that he call them as he sees them.
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Never saw a GP100 that compared to a S&W action/trigger pull. They also look a little clunky due to being made oversize to make up for being cast instead of forged. They are a little less expensive tho.
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I have both, I would be hard pressed to pick just one of them!!!
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Is GP100 Match Champion comparable with S&W686? it's the custom GP100, still lots of different opnions out there; Some said Match Champion?s appearance simply for qualification of competition usage in IDPA.
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negative for me is the lock on the new Smith's I have had both Smith's and GP's...in that same group of revolvers is the Security Six. I own 4 6" SS Six's my choice is this old wheel gun for sure...
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I'm with the "blame it on Clint Eastwood" crowd.

IMHO, if Dirty Harry had used a Ruger, they

would be the front runner, these days.


S&W is also a great gun, but the difference is getting

harder and harder to split.
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seems like the 686 was "the gun" to get over the GP100...Why is this?
Hey Hawk, if I had to guess I'd say it was more 'brand loyalty' than anything else. Unless the 686 is a PC model you gain nothing other over the GP100 and despite what S&W says, you will never wear a Ruger out even with the hottest loads.

Out of the top tier gun manufactures in revolvers Ruger is the only one I have ever seen listed on certain boutique ammo manufactures sites that list their revolvers handling their hottest loads.

Ruger's might not be as polish and fancy as some of the Smith's but it will be handed down through the generations still functioning and not laying around in a safe.



It will be a Ruger revolver future archaeologist find still functioning 1000 years from now.
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I sure like mine............IMG_7665.JPG
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Pat Cannon, That advertisement is a hoot!
I remember that ad in gun magazines. I should have it somewhere in my back copies of 1980s magazines. I found it somewhat humorous, as I had recently gotten my GP100. I then muttered to myself: "yeah, try completely stripping the trigger mechanism on the S&W without the aid of a gunsmith...".
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this is not related to GP100, but does anyone know the model of this gun? shown on top of this Ruger forum.
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this is not related to GP100, but does anyone know the model of this gun? shown on top of this Ruger forum.
It's definitely not a GP100.

Seems to be a tricked out 10/22
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