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Old July 18th, 2013, 02:16 AM   #1
 
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Service Six Question

I recently purchased a Liberty marked service six in .38 Special that is in excellent condition. I was wondering if it was possible to shoot .357 from this weapon by simply changing the cylinder and crane assembly?. I have seen people talking about the 38's being built with the same exact parts as the 357's and if it were safe to do so I had thought about trying it. I've read where some talk about reaming out the 38 to fire 357 ammo but I dont want in any way to damage the original parts of this gun. Anyway just curious, any info greatly appreciated, Thanks.



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Old July 18th, 2013, 06:34 AM   #2
 
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I was wondering if it was possible to shoot .357 from this weapon by simply changing the cylinder and crane assembly?
In theory.... Yes, but I've tried swapping the cylinder and crane and it did not fit properly. They are hand fitted to a certain extent for each frame. You may get lucky and you may not.

I load my 38s a little hotter for my 38 Service Six. If you don't reload and you want a nice hiking load. Buffalo Bore offers a stout +P outdoorsman.

https://www.buffalobore.com/index.ph...t_detail&p=291



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^I'm with exlogger. You can get pretty good expansion and penetration with .38+P. I've been loading my .38 revolvers with Remington Golden Sabre and Hornady Critical Defense.

I'll share an interesting story though. I had bought a Smith .38 spl j frame at a gun show years ago. It was labeled as a .38 but Smith also had offered the same model in .357. I decided out of curiousity to measure everything to the .357 model (a friend of mine owned the latter.) Everything measured, weighed, and looked almost identical except for the grips. Then I decided to see if it would chamber a .357 round and to my surprise it fit perfectly. I even risked shooting it and it kicked but handled just like the .357. After some research I found out that what I had was a rare transition model. My .38 had the same .357 frame, barrel, and cylinder... only thing was that it was roll marked a .38. My advice is unless all the parts, including frame are made to handle .357, don’t risk it. That’s a powerful round where you don’t want something going wrong to happen.
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If you want a 357 get one. I have a service six in 357 but the majority of my shooting is done with 38 Specials. I am sure there would be many folks that would love to have a 1976 Liberty model in 38 spec. that would be willing to trade .
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Why tempt fate?Unless you have written proof from the manufacturer that the barrel is exactly the same as or is a .357 mag barrel then your asking for trouble.It is just unsafe practices like this that get people hurt.I agree with Southerngunner if you wanted a .357 you should have bought one.You also can't "Ream out" a .38spl to accommodate a .357mag round.The .357mag round is longer and is to long for the .38 cylinder.

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I would not do it myself, especially on the 76 gun. Since "we" were not there when it was produced, I hate to find out that the frames used for 38s were "seconds" for the 357 line. BIG difference in the pressure between the two cartridges.

Odd analogy but I have a 28 gal tank in my truck. I often only put in 14 gal of fuel. On my car which has a 14 gal tank I NEVER PUT IN 28 GAL...
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I never said I necessarily wanted a .357 but after reading a few threads on this very site my curiousity was peaked, Plus a friend of mine happens to have a cylinder and crane from a .357 he wanted to sell me for $20 so I thought I'd ask the question. And as for why I bought a .38 special, I would have been a fool to not buy it! It is a blued 4" Service Six, Liberty Edition in excellent condition that I picked up for $150. I am perfectly happy shooting .38 special +p ammo with it.

One of the threads that got me curious:

rugerforum.net/ruger-double-action/49716-help-idea-police-svc-6-a.html
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So, I shouldn't ream my Speed Six .38 chambers out to take .357?
Guess I'll just have to be happy with Buffalo Bore .38s. (easy enough)
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It's been a long time since I had a Service Six .38 Spl in my hands (I was issued one when I was on flight status in the Army), but I seem to remember that they were a bit lighter in construction than my .357 Mag Security Six.

Of course, I never had the two of them side-by-side, so I can't be sure.

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I never said I necessarily wanted a .357 but after reading a few threads on this very site my curiousity was peaked, Plus a friend of mine happens to have a cylinder and crane from a .357 he wanted to sell me for $20 so I thought I'd ask the question. And as for why I bought a .38 special, I would have been a fool to not buy it! It is a blued 4" Service Six, Liberty Edition in excellent condition that I picked up for $150. I am perfectly happy shooting .38 special +p ammo with it.

One of the threads that got me curious:

rugerforum.net/ruger-double-action/49716-help-idea-police-svc-6-a.html
$150. for a Liberty Edition in excellent shape You got one hell of a deal my friend Enjoy it and just for giggles try some target wadcutters out of it you will be pleasnaly suprised with the lack of recoil and the accuracy.Enjoy
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$150. for a Liberty Edition in excellent shape You got one hell of a deal my friend Enjoy it and just for giggles try some target wadcutters out of it you will be pleasnaly suprised with the lack of recoil and the accuracy.Enjoy
That - and the fact that the .38 guns are uncommon compared to the .357 guns. If the OP just MUST have a .357, he should trade the .38 to a collector.
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