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Old March 25th, 2013, 08:20 AM   #16
 
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That cylinder looks UGLY!! I have no doubt its the result of the reload.



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Old March 25th, 2013, 10:20 AM   #17
 
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Good luck with this and let us know how it turns out. I know plenty of folks reload and never have a problem, but page 11 of the manual says -

Ruger Revolvers are designed for use with cartridges of the correct caliber which are manufactured in accordance with US industry standards.

We specifically disclaim responsibility for any damage or injury whatsoever occurring in connection with or as a result of the use in the GP 100 Revolver of faulty, non-standard remanufactured or hand loaded (reloaded) ammunition or of cartridges other than those for which the firearm was originally chambered.

I always wondered what would happen in a situation like this. Please keep us updated and glad no one got hurt.
All gun manufacturers disclaim responsability in case of use of Reloaded ammo.
As an IPSC shooter I have to reloaded (and have reloaded) thousands of 9X19 and 45 ACP and be sure i think "safety" first, and "factor" second
When there is a doubt...in fact there is NO doubt

Double charge?...With a Dillon 550 semi-auto ?
It would have be done deliberatly.
But Ok _i agree_everybody can make a mistake while reloading.

There is an ammo which is not fired on the cylinder.They could check it.
Anyway, don't you think the revolver would be more serousily dammaged with a double charge ?
I think so.

If Ruger explain me that it 's definively impossible whitout a bad ammo : i will trust them.
To be honnest,i trust in Ruger quality and no matter the way Ruger will react i would probably buy another Ruger.

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All I can say is, WOW!
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I have never seen that with a ruger. Sorry good luck.
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Well it sure must have....Left a mark!
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I've been reloading more than 40 years and based on your pictures, I would say you had a double charge of the powder in question (very easy in a 38 Special). I would pull down those other loads and check the powder charges on a proper scale to make sure. Shows you how strong the Ruger cylinders are; another brand would have blown the top off of the cylinder and taken the top strap off of the frame. Glad your weren't hurt.
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I've seen S&W and Ruger revolvers just like that. All were later determined to have double charges. If there had been a stuck bullet in the barrel, the barrel would have bulged/split in most cases. I highly doubt Ruger will cover this as you used handloads. You MIGHT luck out with just replacing the cylinder assembly.
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Interesting that the damage was limited to the cylinder. Have I read correctly that though Ruger frames are case, the cylinders are milled from bar stock, or forged, or whatever?
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Kermit from France, I have a Dillon RL550 and all it takes is a distraction where you pull the handle twice without advancing the shell plate. I've done it several times but caught my mistake before seating a bullet. With any progressive press .... you MUST do a visual check of each and every load for powder drop. I went to the extreme of designing and installing a "light kit" on my press. Every time I prime a case, the light moves over the case and switches on so I can get a good visual on powder level. Granted, my eye ball isn't calibrated in tenths of grains but I can see a gross mischarge.

Here's a photo of my light kit shown with the handle pushed forward to prime a case.



While I owned my shop, I had several Kabooms brought in by customers. Yours is a classic powder double charge. Like others mentioned ... you were lucky the gun was the only thing hurt. After an incident like this, the gun is trash. The top strap stretches making cylinder to bore alignment impossible with a new cylinder. The small parts can be salvaged but the cylinder and frame are history. Ruger specifically states they will not support repairs on guns when reloads are used so I doubt they will be much help.
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I agree with Iowegan and others about the double load. That is the main reason i used a single stage when reloading for my silhouette guns (Dan Wesson .44Mag, DW .357 SuperMag, and 7mm IHMSA) I was already pushing the limits and didn't want to take a chance. As I filled a 50 round reloading block I visually inspected them with a flashlight and then I weighed random loads to double check (usually 1 in 5). Anal? Yeah, maybe, but the only problem I ever had was with a progressive, a squib round on a 10mm Omega that left the bullet in the barrel. That was my last foray into progressive loaders. Granted, that was 25 years ago and the equipment has improved, but I still use my old Rock Chucker.

I hope Ruger steps up and helps you out, but I wouldn't hold my breath. I'm glad you weren't injured.
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End of this story.
No answer from Ruger.
Tired to wait...
Gun sent to destruction...In France,shooters have limited permits to firearms.
So the gun has to be destroyed to recover a new permit.
Special thanks to IOWEGAN.
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The load seems safe, unless a double charge sneaked in, but most manufacturers do not warrant guns against handloads, at all.

Ruger may fix it, even if they don't have to, for PR reasons. Or, they may offer a new gun at reduced cost.

I hope it won't be too hard to ship the gun to/from France.

Because other structural damage may have occurred, Ruger may not just replace the cylinder. The photos were really impressive.

Bonne chance!

NOTE: posted before reading Kermit's last post. I'm sorry that it ended this way.

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I've done it several times but caught my mistake before seating a bullet.
I have "lost track" while reloading, and weighed the charge prior to seating the bullett, sure enough it would have been a kaboom,

Now if I have to get up from my machine, (primers, bathroom, etc.) I leave the handle down,,, this method works well for me.
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I do things a little slower on my single stage press. I get three opportunities to look inside the case before seating.

No double charges yet! Knock on wood.
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