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Old March 18th, 2013, 02:26 AM   #1
 
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UK super redhawk shooter with Q's :)

Greetings from the soggy UK

I found myself fortunate enough to find a super redhawk last week, in the UK legal configuration of long barrel, they started out as 18" barrel for long range target shooting. I have to shorten mine to 12.5" and add a 6" or so bar out the back to keep total length over 60cm

mines .357, this is apparantly more rare than .44

not only are they hard to find, but they are ridiculously expensive, I only know of one other SRH for sale here at the moment, thats a .44 and 1750, think thats about $2800USD today

anyway I am after advice and help with regards to trigger work

Im going to order and try spring kits, but looking for any online guides or info with regards to getting the double action slick and lighter

currently SA is not too bad in terms of creep etc, and 5lb 9oz pull, although it feels a lot lighter I suspect due to the vice like grip of trying to hold it LOL

my lyman trigger guage bottomed out at 12lb and DA hadnt even started to move, all practical and quick shooting here is DA so that needs urgent attention, must be in the region of about 19lb!!!

I have also found that the DA cycle gets tighter and tighter over 18 pulls then goes back to normal, Im guessing that it needs complete strip and a deburr or check for bent pins etc, this was new in 2002 and has had less than 100 rounds through it

anyone know of any good links or guides that might help

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Old March 18th, 2013, 01:34 PM   #2
 
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Tony... welcome. Can you post a pic or two? We never get to see the long barreled SRH here in the US. I have actually only heard one mention of the Long barrel SRH, and in 357 Magnum?... that is rare. I have a 44 Magnum 7.5" SRH I bought new in 1988(shortly after they came out). Here is a link to an SP101 Trigger Job guide. The SRH is very similar in mechanics, so this guide will give you a good idea of what to do. Lets see them pics...

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welcome from the Sunshine State(Florida).check out Wolffsprings,they have shooters paks of different strength hammer and trigger springs.good luck and shoot safe.

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thanks guys, obviously Im sure you can appreciate how hard it is to get info or work done here on revolvers.

we have very little choice with regards to long barrel revolvers for competitions
Taurus are 700 new but really are poor, there was a run of .44 versions that had no rifling, then there was cylinders so far out of shape they wouldn't rotate in the frame properly
these Rugers are rarely available, used typical price is 1100-1800, its taken me 4 years to find this one
next up is JTL, last time I looked they were about 2700
and top of the xmas tree and the holy grail are long barrel S&W looking at about 18 months wait, and 3000+ yup as much as $5000 to own a S&W LOL

I am looking at large bill and long wait just for some springs, but Im sure it will be worth it
springs are 10 the set, add carriage and then import duty and tax,also a processing fee at customs, asimple 10 spring set becomes 30-40

these Rugers came into the UK with the 18.5" barrels, this keeps the overall length over 60cm and legally makes them the same as a rifle technically.

we have minimum barrel length of 30cm, and minimum overall of 60cm

the first job is to drill and weld a bar into the hilt of the grip and then reduce the length of the barrel to 31cm

its a shame as its very rare here in the UK, most are .44, a few hundred .44 were apparently brought into the UK, while I was told by a dealer that 12 .357 were done, mainly for 100,200 and 300 yard long range pistol matches that are still shot here

mine was proofed here in the UK in 2002, so assume that's when it was imported, the previous owner purchased 100 cartridges with it, and still hasn't used them all

sorry for the low quality pics, from my phone but couldn't find my camera

please don't laugh too much

my wife calls it pinnochio

sorry I have problems with photbucket, its not letting me edit the photos, they are all rotated wrong

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hopefully its fixed and some pics should be here, will take better ones soon









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Welcome from New Jersey on teh US east coast near New York city. Before you get any springs take the gun apart and use crocus cloth to smooth it and them dry fire the gun about 2000 times. that will make most revolvers much smoother.
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That is a crazy rule but I guess thats what you guys have to do to own certain guns anymore. I'd almost leave the barrel length alone and attach a bipod(assuming you can even do that there).
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My gosh Tony... THAT IS SO COOL! I have long searched for a picture of the Long Barrel SRH, and there it is. And its a .357 - You sir might just have one of the neatest Ruger handguns I have ever seen. Thank you so much for the photos. Good luck with your project. The Iowegan info in the Library has been taken down. The link I posted is based on info from that. Again Tony, Thanks for the picture. You should make that your avatar.
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Hi Tony,

See you found your way here as well.

When modified as described the gun will look similar to this: http://rugerforum.net/pictures/ruger...r-redhawk.html

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Hi mate, yeah looked around the web and this was the best ruger forum by miles

the other forum in the UK is ok, but if you want the best info, best go to the source

Im so excited about getting mine to look like yours, and getting some rounds through it, just emailing 5star about speedloaders at the moment, then time to build up the holster rig

hoping that I can develop a load that works in the marlin lever gun as well as the SRH.
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I have sent you a pm on BBS to see if you are at Bisley for the SAW this weekend.

If you are you can have a close look at my SRH if you like.

Yes this is the best Ruger forum as well.
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well I got brave and pulled it apart, damn that was easy

it has either been apart before?? or maybe a part was left out at the factory?

the pawl spring had no plunger on it, Im not sure that a plunger would even fit with the length of spring that is in there.

so placing an order with midway for some parts.

in the mean time I am going to see how much difference I can make by going through the entire trigger action, removing edges and polishing things.

need to get the DA down smooth and lighter.
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Welcome from Massachusetts!
Nice looking Ruger you've got there.
Every time I see pictures of the long barrel revolvers all I can think of is that one scene of the older Batman movie where The Joker (Jack Nicholson) draws one out to shoot at the "Batwing"!
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Welcome from Massachusetts!
Nice looking Ruger you've got there.
Every time I see pictures of the long barrel revolvers all I can think of is that one scene of the older Batman movie where The Joker (Jack Nicholson) draws one out to shoot at the "Batwing"!
LOL I thought of Johnny Dangerously when Danny Vermin pulled out his 88 magnum
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Holy cow. That is quite a barrel.

Found some good loadings for my Marlin that should be more than ok in your SRH here:

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