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Old May 5th, 2017, 04:31 PM   #31
 
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This is an old thread that was just rekindled but it caught my eye.

The OP's DAO, bobbed hammer, half lug, GP-100 with fixed sights is an INCREDIBLE gun and one that I would be very proud to own. It is a no-nonsense, no frills tool that will get the job done !

I have a long association with DAO revolvers and currently have a decent collection of DAO Rugers. The DAO, spurless hammer revolver scene is not mainstream and it's certainly not "cool" but there's a lot to that package that doesn't meet the eye.

The full sized, spurless revolvers are often viewed as anomalies or even undesirable revolvers because they lack a hammer spur and SA capability. I would never convert a spurless DAO back to standard hammer, DA/SA configuration. The world is FULL of conventional DA/SA revolvers; it is the spurless, DAO models that are rare and unusual !
A half-lug , DAO model with fixed sights is about as simple, strong, light and tough as you can get.

At first glance a lot of folks will think the DAO models lack single action capability. They will view those revolvers as less desirable because they do not provide the option of single action operation. However, after you use a DAO revolver for some time you begin to see the strength of its simplicity.
When you are forced to shoot in double action all of the time you learn the strength of the system and you realize that you can shoot a DA revolver as well as a SA revolver.

Conventional DA/SA revolvers are as common as crabgrass and there's nothing wrong with a full sized DA/SA revolver. That style will always be with us.
The full sized DAO revolver is a bit of a red-headed step child but it has its own strength if you take the time to discover it.

I cannot stand a hammer spur on a SNUBNOSED revolver and will not tolerate a hammer spur on a snubnose. When dealing with a full sized revolver I see positive attributes to the conventional DA/SA configuration AND positive attributes to the DAO design. I don't prefer one over the other as they both bring something to the table.



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Theophilus, Your DAO operates exactly the same as a SA/DA in the DA mode .... complete with the stacking near the end of the trigger stroke. What Ruger did to make it a DAO was to simply grind off the SA sear notch. The way Ruger a sear systems works is quite different from S&W. The Trigger half of the sear actually hands off from the SA sear notch to the DA sear (S&W doesn't have a DA sear). This causes the trigger to stack right at the end of the stroke. S&W owners usually hate Ruger sears ... but if they would only take time to learn how they operate, their accuracy would improve.

When I went to the Quantico Accademy, we were taught a technique called "Roll, Hold, Sight, Squeeze" .... very easy to do with a Ruger DA because of trigger stacking .... very difficult to do with a S&W DA because there is virtually no difference in trigger feel before the gun goes bang. The concept is simple ... you start pulling the trigger until the cylinder ROLLS and locks up, You then HOLD that trigger position while you SIGHT the revolver .... and finally you SQUEEZE the trigger a bit more until you hear a bang. With S&Ws, you typically just pull through the entire trigger travel and try your best to maintain a good sight picture. There's nothing wrong with either procedure ... it just a matter which one works best for you or which one you learned to use.

Here's a photo of a GP100 hammer. Note the SA sear and DA sear. You can remove the SA sear but if you try to remove the DA sear, the hammer will pull the trigger forward when you try to shoot .... no bang, no workie. If you plan to keep your GP100, learn how to do the Roll, Hold, Sight, Squeeze technique .... otherwise if you can't deal with it, sell the gun and buy a S&W.




I own quite a few S&W revolvers but when I practice DA marksmanship, I pull out my 6" stainless GP100 ... it can put other guns to shame. Here's my 1995 vintage GP100, 357 Mag:
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When I went to the Quantico Accademy, we were taught a technique called "Roll, Hold, Sight, Squeeze" .... very easy to do with a Ruger DA because of trigger stacking .... very difficult to do with a S&W DA because there is virtually no difference in trigger feel before the gun goes bang. The concept is simple ... you start pulling the trigger until the cylinder ROLLS and locks up, You then HOLD that trigger position while you SIGHT the revolver .... and finally you SQUEEZE the trigger a bit more until you hear a bang. With S&Ws, you typically just pull through the entire trigger travel and try your best to maintain a good sight picture. There's nothing wrong with either procedure ... it just a matter which one works best for you or which one you learned to use.
I recently got a GP 100 and after being a S&W shooter for 40 years I noticed myself staging the GP like that once in a while by accident at farther targets. I think that could be good a thing to practice for some of those SCSA stages that are a little farther out (the plates you actually have to aim at).

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