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Old October 15th, 2012, 05:55 AM   #1
 
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Redhawk .45 Colt

My LGS has a 4" Ruger Redhawk in .45 Colt. I started to pull the trigger and buy it but was told I should go ahead and buy a 454 Casull that also shoots the .45 colt..
Would there be any advantage to just buying the .45 colt only?

Thanks for any input..



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Old October 15th, 2012, 06:12 AM   #2
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In the Redhawk the 45C can be loaded to 44 mag energies or you can soft load it to CAS loads. The only advantage I can see with a Super Redhawk in 454 is if you need the extra power of the Casull, then your BBL length options are 7 1/2", 9 1/2" or the 2 1/2" Alaskan. My thoughts are there aren't a lot of the 4" Redhawks around so if you decide you want it later on you may have to wait or pay a premium.
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You may get more accuracy from a 45 Colt only model when shooting 45 Colt, simply because the bullet has a shorter distance to travel before it contacts rifling in a 45 Colt only model. Same reason why the 45 Colt often produces ho hum accuracy in all these guns now chambered to also shoot 410 shotshells. That bullet has to travel some distance before it contacts rifling. Not that such a gun won't produce useable accuracy for SD work and so on, but if you're trying to chase down every last bit of accuracy potential with the 45 Colt, I'd take a 45 Colt only gun. My strategy has always been to get a gun that is optimized to shoot the cartridge that I will be shooting the most. Unless you plan to shoot a lot of 454s, I'd just get the 45 Colt model.
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My thoughts are there aren't a lot of the 4" Redhawks around so if you decide you want it later on you may have to wait or pay a premium.
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That's the going price on any new Redhawk. If you want a good price on a Redhawk, you typically have to shop used, but the odds of you finding that 45 Colt Redhawk used are pretty darn slim. The 45 Colt version has only been out a short while. Keep in mind, too, that going 4" barrel on a Super in 454 is not an option. If you go the SRH 454 route, you'll be dealing with a bigger and heavier gun, unless you opt for the 454 Alaskan.

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Wholesale is $650 right now so that price is high. Buds is listing at $762 but is out of stock. I would shop around or wait.

Interesting looking at Bud's listings for Rugers a couple of SRH's in 44 Mag and all the LCR models are in stock and everything else is out.

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I advise, as a former SRH owner, with going for the Redhawk if your desire is to shoot Colt rounds.
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Wholesale is $650 right now so that price is high. Buds is listing at $762 but is out of stock. I would shop around or wait.

That will explain why the Redhawk has been in the display case since June...
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Heres one of two at the same site

Ruger 45 LC Redhawk SS 4" Revolver LNIB : Revolvers at GunBroker.com

Good luck

I've been looking for a 44 mag 4.2" for over a year.
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I got the first one to hit my LGS, and have never been happier! The cylinder is even beefier than my workhorse BH. If you reload, you can find loads that will do what needs doing without ever needing a 454.
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I opted for the 4" RH in 45 Colt, simply because I didn't want the bullet jumping so far as it would have to in a 454, and I wanted the 4" bbl, and not a "buntline"-length hogleg. I was fortunate that I bought it used for $600 plus transfer. There were 38 rounds of ammo left in the 50-rd box, and I bought it from the deceased's son to settle an estate.

The balance of the 4" RH is about perfect, IMO and experience. I sent the cylinder away to have the chambers reamed and accuracy tightened up by about 1.5 inches.

Superb revolver, the 4" Redhawk.

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The Redhawk .44 magnum 4.2 inch and .45 Colt 4.2 inch are in very short supply. I have been looking for the .44 magnum version for a long time. The MSRP is $989.00. I would offer $800.00 or plan to wait a long time.
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Do you have a real need or desire for the 454? I have both and have only shot 50 rounds of 45 Colt through the 454 and those will be the last. I enjoy both guns but do not enjoy the clean up after using 45 Colt in the 454. If you're looking for the 4" barrel length than you'll have to stick with the 45. The 45 can be loaded to some pretty respectable volicities with the Ruger only loads that come close to the 44 and of course the 45 has a bigger frontal diameter than the 44.
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No idea what your needs are. If I were presented a SRH .454 Casull 7-1/2", and a Redhawk .45 Colt 4", and told to choose, I would select the Redhawk .45 Colt.

Why?

1) Conceptually I disapprove of a 6-shot .454 Casull. Dick Casull designed his cartridge for thick chambers.

2) The .454 Casull operates at specialized pressure, requiring a .001-.002-inch cylinder gap. The Super Redhawk may lack this tight gap. If you must buy, measure the gap with a feeler gauge before you lay down your cash. An excessive gap yields much lower velocity that the tight Freedom Arms delivers.

3) The .45 Colt is a more efficient cartridge, with plenty of upstairs potential, in the Ruger.
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