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debgram · August 24th, 2012, 05:52 PM

It's been a while since I post here and at that time I was looking into trading/selling my Security-Six for a gun that will fit my small hands better. It fits my hands but as I'm getting older, it just feels more heavy to me.

I went to the gun shop down the street that is ran by some cops and they were going to take my gun in trade for a LCP and then I would pay for the crimson trace. Well things didn't go as planned as we had some major house repairs and didn't have the time or money to get the gun.

I'm pretty sure the gun they showed me was the .380 cause it was short like my snub nosed security six. The 9mm has a longer barrel.

What I want to know what is the difference between these 2 options other than price, I'm guessing the crimson trace is a better laser?

Fixed/Crimson Trace® Laserguard®
Fixed/LaserMax CenterFire™

Another question, if I take my gun down there and get the LCP can the laser be put on at a later date, like when I have extra money?

Thanks guys for any information and please give me a break, I'm trying to learn here, it's been years since I actually did much with guns.

LAGun · August 24th, 2012, 06:35 PM

If I remember we all tried to get you to keep the Security-Six.To answer your question yes you can put any laser on at a later date...

debgram · August 24th, 2012, 06:42 PM

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If I remember we all tried to get you to keep the Security-Six.To answer your question yes you can put any laser on at a later date...

Yeah but I don't want to keep something that isn't comfortable in my hands anymore. Thanks for the info on the laser

Dawgface · August 24th, 2012, 07:30 PM

My suggestion is for you to shoot an LCP, rent one at a range if need be before you make the trade.....I think if your hands are getting weak(I know how that is all too well), you will hate the LCP's snappy kick and will regret the trade.
By the way LCPs are for sale near me for $275 new, just for your information.

Shadyw · August 24th, 2012, 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Dawgface

My suggestion is for you to shoot an LCP, rent one at a range if need be before you make the trade.....I think if your hands are getting weak(I know how that is all too well), you will hate the LCP's snappy kick and will regret the trade.
By the way LCPs are for sale near me for $275 new, just for your information.

+1. I own the LCP and carry it, but it is npot aq comfortable gun to shoot at the range, but that's not why I got it. Maybe rent some other guns to see what works best for you.

debgram · August 24th, 2012, 07:58 PM

would the LC9 be any different?

In October my hubby has vacation again and we are going to go down to the indoor range in Celina, OH. That's the only one close to here.

Spike12 · August 24th, 2012, 08:07 PM

Well, here we go...

1) The LaserMax isn't as strong as the Crimson trace or as durable. Price tells...

2) If you're having trouble with hand strength to the extent the Security Six is too heavy be sure you still have the strength to rack the slide of a semi-auto pistol and the training a semi requires when it jams.

3) If the Six is too much, go to a Ruger LC*R* (revolver) not an LC*P* (pistol) or any other semi.

Your Six is a good gun. Don't let them rip you off!

debgram · August 24th, 2012, 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Spike12

Well, here we go...

1) The LaserMax isn't as strong as the Crimson trace or as durable. Price tells...

2) If you're having trouble with hand strength to the extent the Security Six is too heavy be sure you still have the strength to rack the slide of a semi-auto pistol and the training a semi requires when it jams.

3) If the Six is too much, go to a Ruger LC*R* (revolver) not an LC*P* (pistol) or any other semi.

Your Six is a good gun. Don't let them rip you off!

I was just looking at the LCR and the grips look too fat for my hands. I have a very small hand, my 11 year old niece has a little bigger hand than I do...lol

That's what someone told me about those guns jammimg and a revolver won't.

LCR-LG 5402 38 Spl +P 5 Crimson Trace® Lasergrips® Replaceable, Pinned Ramp 13.00 oz. $792.00 With the other trade for the LCP they were giving me an even trade around $450 plus I think it was another $180-195 for the trace.

Brewster · August 24th, 2012, 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by debgram

would the LC9 be any different?

In October my hubby has vacation again and we are going to go down to the indoor range in Celina, OH. That's the only one close to here.

The LC9 is going to have more kick than the LCP. As someone else suggested the best thing you can do is shoot the gun before you buy it. I think you'd like the Ruger sr22 pistol that is if you don't mind going to a smaller round. If you want to stay larger I'd suggest looking into the compact version of the Beretta px4 storm in 9mm. It has 3 different grip backings for different size hands and manageable recoil because of its rotating barrel design(you can add a laser to this gun too). The slide is also easier to rack than other sub compact 9mms.

debgram · August 24th, 2012, 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Brewster

The LC9 is going to have more kick than the LCP. As someone else suggested the best thing you can do is shoot the gun before you buy it. I think you'd like the Ruger sr22 pistol that is if you don't mind going to a smaller round. If you want to stay larger I'd suggest looking into the compact version of the Beretta px4 storm in 9mm. It has 3 different grip backings for different size hands and manageable recoil because of its rotating barrel design(you can add a laser to this gun too). The slide is also easier to rack than other sub compact 9mms.

LOL, now I have more decisions. Okay, you said the Beretta slide is easier, what about the one on the Ruger sr22? I was just looking at both, was this the Beretta you were talking about?

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jjwesley · August 25th, 2012, 12:11 AM

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Well, here we go...

.2) If you're having trouble with hand strength to the extent the Security Six is too heavy be sure you still have the strength to rack the slide of a semi-auto pistol and the training a semi requires when it jams.

Your Six is a good gun. Don't let them rip you off!

When you were looking at the semi-auto, did you try to pull the slide back? My sister-in-law had similar problems as you ( weight and grip) and she ended up getting a Walther .22. That was before the Ruger SR22P. They are priced around $300, depending on the shop. I have fired a SR22P numerous times and find it very comfortable, and reliable. Plus, it comes with 2 grips 1 of which is smaller than most. I urge you to look at it IF you are set on going semi-auto. Unless you have to sell it, keep the revolver, you will not get what it's worth at a gun store. Remember they have to make a profit on it when they sell it. The best bet is to sell it to a friend or relative. Then you can sell it for a price similar to what the guns shop gets for it used, and it's still a fair price.

I am not a fan of lasers, so I will refrain from commenting on them, just know that they can be added at anytime. The only gun I can think of that comes from the factory with a laser is the S&W .380 Bodyguard. You might want to look at that also.

You mentioned Celina, OH. If they don't have rental guns, come a little further south to Vandalia Range and Armory, they do have rentals, and the folks there are very helpful. Good luck in your search. Take your time and check out several options. It's not like you are buying a piece of penny candy, oh wait, it's 20 cents now isn't it., Consider it a "major purchase" since you life could possibly depend on your choice.

What ever you decide, practice, practice, practice!! It not only maintains proficency, it helps to maintain hand strength as well.

TMan51 · August 25th, 2012, 03:42 AM

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If you're having trouble with hand strength to the extent the Security Six is too heavy be sure you still have the strength to rack the slide of a semi-auto pistol and the training a semi requires when it jams.

That's a very real observation, and a very good one.

I have a house full of ladies that like to shoot, and both of my daughters are active athletes. None of them can cycle my .45 compact without breaking a sweat, and I'm always surprised that my Kahr P9 gives them a problem. They all like and shoot my P22, but it's no .38/.357 for anyone that seriously thinks they need it for self protection.

The LCR's are about the best "out of the box" DA pull of any revolver I've ever shot. My oldest daughter thought the pull required excessive effort. She went with an SP101.

I had a Security Six in the past, and regretted trading it off on many occasions. This spring I managed to snag one of the 4.2" SP101's, and forty years smarter, I won't trade that one off this side of the grave. But is long for concealed carry by a small frame person The 2.25" barrel is a bit lighter than the Security Six, the grip is smaller, and soaks up recoil better. Might be worth considering.

There's always the Featherweight Smith's. I have a M637 that I am very fond of. But my girls find the recoil excessive, even with moderate .38's.

Many things to balance.

Marine Division Two · August 25th, 2012, 03:54 AM

Get to a range,explain your dilemma to shooter who have what your thinking of buying,most will let you try their guns.Hate to say this but Kel-Tec Makes the lightest 9mm PF-9 on the market smaller grip too,a little less in quality but still very dependable,good luck,Again.

SnakeChief · August 25th, 2012, 05:21 AM

If you can rack the slides, the generation 4 Glocks and I think the Springfield XDm also has interchangeable backstraps. Lasers can be fitted to both. Glock also has an SF (short frame) line for SOME of their models. The grip is shorter front to back. However, if money is an issue, both of those brands are more than LCPs, and LC9s. I think S&W has a ladysmith line that has a smaller grip for folks with smaller hands. You will have to check their site as some J frame smiths are 399 and others are 799.

Finally, i will say, like others did, ENSURE you test these guns first. Some of these lasers either increase the grip frame size and/or they are not comfortable with 'serious' calibers. You may want to purchase a gun where the laser fits under the barrel vs. the grip. Many folks on here have note the differences between a 357 LCR with and without laser grips.

Good luck and I hope you find something!!

SnakeChief · August 25th, 2012, 05:25 AM

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Originally Posted by debgram

would the LC9 be any different?

In October my hubby has vacation again and we are going to go down to the indoor range in Celina, OH. That's the only one close to here.

I have the LC9. Long trigger pull which COULD be an issue for you if you have hand strength concerns, and its double action only. Definitely test fire this gun. Preferably one thats newer so you'll understand the pull of a new action (this goes for any gun you test). Of course, you can also buy a used gun. In many cases the actions get smoother over time and YOU don't have to do the break in if your hands are a concern.