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Old April 26th, 2012, 08:18 PM   #1
 
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SP101 .38spl vs. SP101 .327 federal

This is for the wife and she has small hands and recoil sensitive. In your opinion and from personal experience/feedback what would offer less felt recoil and muzzle flip.

Intention is to shoot the .32 SW long out of the SP101 .327 federal and reduced cowboy .38spl loads and wadcutters out of the .38spl SP101.

From this comparison your thoughts…?



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Old April 26th, 2012, 10:30 PM   #2
 
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If youre looking at the .38, atleast get the .357 version so you can shoot both. Even if you don't plan on using it for .357, always good to have the option. Maybe even load 4 .38s and 1 .357 for the last shot so when that last shot is needed, youll know it will have some punch to it.

Can't compare them personally, have no expecience with .32s but atleast the .32 is a 6 shot
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availability of .327 Fed ammo is a huge issue...almost exstinct...
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To me the 38 Spl is the better option for SD than the 32 S&W L. Loaded down with wadcutters the recoil should be manageable for her in a 24 oz revolver and it isn't a bad SD load either. The cast WC's won't expand much but they will dig deep enough to do the job. I would second those that say buy the 357 version and shoot the 38's in it. It will have a better resale value and should be easier to find one in that caliber.
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+1 for the .357

I'm not knocking the .327 but it never really caught on as a mainstream cartridge like Ruger or Federal hoped it would. Thats not saying its going to disappear anytime soon but it does mean that unless you reload the only place your going to find ammo is online or a local gun shop. Big box retailers and spoting goods stores will more than likely not carry it.

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I used to have the SP101 in 327 as my CCW and I'm an experienced shooter and a gal with plenty of time behind big bore revolvers. The full power 100 grain 327 loads in the SP had a sharp bite. Ten shots in that small revolver were about my max before my wrist hurt to the point and I did not want to shoot, anymore, and it takes a lot not to make me want to shoot, anymore. The 85 grain self-defense loads by Federal were much more pleasant and doable. I could go through a box of those in a session, but I still had to concentrate on not developing a flinch.

I loved the 327 FM as a cartridge - very flat shooting - and was able to find ammo at Cabela's or my LGS would order it for me. However, you are not going to find 327 at Wally World and most small, local gun shops will not have it sitting on the shelf.

If I had it to do over, I would get the 357 in an SP and just shoot 38s and call it good. You can still go with lighter 357 SD loads if you think you need them, but 38s are nothing to sneeze at. Best of all, any place that sells guns will have ammo.

I don't live in a high crime area, so I have no real use for a small CCW. On the rare occasions I might need to carry, I will just put up with the weight of our GP or, better yet, one of our full size 1911s. Those I shoot and shoot well.
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I used to have the SP101 in 327 as my CCW and I'm an experienced shooter and a gal with plenty of time behind big bore revolvers. The full power 100 grain 327 loads in the SP had a sharp bite. Ten shots in that small revolver were about my max before my wrist hurt to the point and I did not want to shoot, anymore, and it takes a lot not to make me want to shoot, anymore. The 85 grain self-defense loads by Federal were much more pleasant and doable. I could go through a box of those in a session, but I still had to concentrate on not developing a flinch.

I loved the 327 FM as a cartridge - very flat shooting - and was able to find ammo at Cabela's or my LGS would order it for me. However, you are not going to find 327 at Wally World and most small, local gun shops will not have it sitting on the shelf.
Ballistically the .327 does look like a good choice, not too far off from the .357 mag. Seems like with availabilty with ammo, might be a good choice to mostly reloaders
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I agree, Nick, the 327 really is a neat little cartridge. I wish now I had bought the heavier GP in 327 or even the BH in 327 and then had some fun with the 327 at the range. I think the 327 is in a Catch 22 phase at the moment. More guns in 327 would create more demand for the cartridge and encourage the ammo makers to up the supply, but gun makers aren't going to make more 327s until they are sure there is a better supply of 327s.
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I agree, Nick, the 327 really is a neat little cartridge. I wish now I had bought the heavier GP in 327 or even the BH in 327 and then had some fun with the 327 at the range. I think the 327 is in a Catch 22 phase at the moment. More guns in 327 would create more demand for the cartridge and encourage the ammo makers to up the supply, but gun makers aren't going to make more 327s until they are sure there is a better supply of 327s.
Rossi, Taurus, and Charter Arms all dropped this caliber from their lineup this year. That pretty much just leaves Ruger and S&W. So pretty much almost every revolver manufacturer did at one time chamber a gun for it. Last I looked CDNN Sports had the last of the Taurus.327 revolvers discounted to as low as $219 because demand is so dismal. It is what it is.

On a side note I think a lever action carbine in .327 would be pretty neat.
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>> ... demand is so dismal.

Yes, maybe, but I have heard that Taurus/Rossi and Charter had technical issues due to the very high pressure .327 Fed Mag round and rather than solve the problems they chose to discontinue the gun.

>> availability of .327 Fed ammo is a huge issue ...

Yes, it was but not so much now. I can usually find .327 ammo at Cabelas and just about any of the usual Internet ammo stores. New loads are slowly coming on the scene so I wouldn't count the round out just yet. I like my SP101 in .327 and plan on keeping it.

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I still like the 327, too, and have not given up on it. It was more a matter of me selling the SP because the gun didn't suit my shooting needs (range shooting), rather than the cartridge, itself. If you like 32s, as I do, the 327 is terrific.

On a side note, this whole debate about the 327 being the solution to a nonexistent problem is largely a matter of whether you are a fan of 32s or not a fan of 32s. I've always enjoyed shooting the 32 H&R in a Single Six I had, years, ago, so I jumped on the first 327 I could find and that was the SP. For my shooting, I should have held out for a GP or BH. Those are still on my want to buy list.
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Gunnie 12,
The 327 was an answer to a question that was never asked. Soon to join the ranks of the many other marketing gimmick calibers, it will be all but extinct in 5 more years.
A 38/357 can both be bought or loaded to fill the needs from practice plinkers not much worse that 22lr in recoil, to a 357 capable of bagging just about any game in North America.
Can you guess which one I think you should get her.
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My wife and a friend of hers, both have older Ruger SP101's in .38 Special...and they love them! Her friend also has an SP101 in .327 mag...and has since put it aside in preference of the .38...both for limited available ammo...and she quickly preferred the recoil from the .38 vs. the .327!

For women...I don't always say 'get the .357' so you can shoot both...just get the .38 and enjoy it! If push comes to shove, get +P+ rounds and bang away!

Just remember...you can get a front night sight for the SP101...and there are several different grips to fit her hand specifically!

Good luck!
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Thank you to everyone.....

The choice in .327 federal was never to shoot the .327 round but only the .32 SW long only.

Glad to hear I can load .38spl to feel like .22LR in felt recoil. If that is true, then going to the SP101 .357 mag shooting only .38spl is the way to go for her.
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All in all, Gunnie 12, as much as like the 327, I think the 357 shooting 38s is a much more practical way to go. 32 S&W Longs aren't exactly easy to find, either. Any place that sells ammo will have 38s, though.
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