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.44 Mag....Redhawk VS Model 29 and others

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Old September 24th, 2011, 07:38 AM   #1
 
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.44 Mag....Redhawk VS Model 29 and others

Many moons ago, I had a Model 29 S&W. I prefer shooting one handed and that sucker beat the crap out of my hand after a box of 50 full load .44 Mags. I've been having cravings for another .44 Mag and would like to hear from anyone that has shot both the Redhawk and the Model 29 and how they compare. I know that Taurus makes a .44 Mag DA revolver too. Does it compare with the aforementioned guns?

In the long run, I'll get another Super Blackhawk too, but like the looks of the big DA mangleums.



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I have both, a 6.5" Model 29 and a 4" Redhawk .44 Mag. I also have a Super Redhawk 9.5" .44 Mag.

The new S&W 629 is IMO no stronger or more durable than the older 29's. The 629 is not in the same league endurance-wise as a Redhawk.There's a reason why the loading manuals have "Ruger and Freedom Arms only" loads, not "S&W only"

There's no doubt the Redhawk will hold up better in the long run, when I get the urge to shoot .44 Mags it's the Rugers that come out. The S&W is in great shape but only sees a token amount of light .44 Mags periodically.

IMO an older, nice Model 29 is more of a collectible, as a Dirty Harry fan I needed one, but I never bought it to use as a shooter. The Redhawk is more than up to the task of constant shooting with hot .44's.

I will make no comment on the Taurus I own 4 Taurus .38 revolvers, they go bang when I pull the trigger, but as far as quality, I have nothing good to say.
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Pass on the Taurus. If you're wanting heavy duty, the ability to survive Rhino Roller loads and a better design, then get the Redhawk.
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S&W 29s & Ruger Redhawks,JMO about the Best there is.
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I am absolutely certain that the Redhawk is a more durable gun. That said, I own a S&W M29....a blued Mountain Gun version, and it is just about the most handsome gun I own.
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I never fired a Ruger Redhawk however, I have held and dry fired one that a friend of mine owns.
EDIT: DOH...I meant a Super Redhawk.
However, I have fired the S&W Model 29 with a 8⅜" barrel.
One of my Brother in Law's owns one and I love that gun.

I am sure the Redhawk is a fine gun.
I just never liked the looks of it when compared to a Model 29 or even a Super Blackhawk.
It is too 'blocky' (lack of a better term) to me...
More precisely I do not like how the barrel connects to the frame.
It just looks funny to me. As if it needs to be smoothed down a bit...
I hope this makes sense and I hope I did not offend anyone that owns a Redhawk.
No matter what *I* think of a Redhawk's cosmetic looks it is a given that it is a well built and dependable gun.
EDIT: I mean the Super Redhawk. the Redhawk is a fine looking gun...Silly me...I was real tired when I posted this originally...

I had an opportunity to purchase a used Model 29-2 with a 8⅜" barrel about a month or so ago.
It was in very good shape and the trigger was modified.
It had a very, very light trigger that I know many would love to own.
I was not comfortable with a .44 Magnum with THAT light of a trigger.
Plus it was Nickle Plated and I shied away on account of that too.

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I have all 3 and as stated above in regard to the Smith and Ruger I agree 100%, Ruger is built to shoot and Smith has a nice trigger and doesn't feel like it take take a steady diet of full house loads. As far as the Taurus....I had a 44 Tracker and it was built to shoot a little and carry a lot. Very punishing with full house loads. 44 Raging Bull is another story. It's built to take the heavy loads but fit and finish doesn't compare to the top 2. It does go bang each and every time and it does produce decent groups. Taurus Customer Service leaves a lot to be desired. I had issues with the last 3 NIB Taurus I purchased. Two went back for service and one took 8 weeks and the other took 9 weeks. One got fixed but they caused another issue and the other was sent back just as it was sent in. I will keep and shoot my Raging Bulls but will not invest in another Taurus. If I can trade for a decent price I will also get rid of the Bulls.
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No comparison. If you want a gun to shoot, that will handle the constant pounding of the 44mag the Redhawk is the gun to get. I have a NIB M29 6 1/2" I bought in the mid to late 70's. It's never been fired or taken out. I know there's no way it will hold up like my Redhawk has. The Smith's are a beautiful gun just not designed for the punishment the 44 mag gives to it.
As for Taurus, from my one and only experience with a Taurus I would never own another one.
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I have a 629 Classic with the full underlug barrel. The extra weight really helps with recoil. I bought it to replace a Classic DX that I sold to finance a 1911 back when .44 mag was a whopping $22/box (who can afford to shoot that ?!?) That DX would shoot tighter groups than you would believe. The regular classic still shoots great, but I wish I had that DX back.

Neither gun ever showed the slightest sign of wear from 240gr factory hunting loads.

I loved the last Super Redhawk I held except for the lock time. The trigger was much better than they used to be, but that stinkin lock time combined with the hammer smacking the transfer bar just turned me off. Both of my 629s had hammer mounted firing pins which are much better IMO.

And if you need a gun that will handle hotter than factory loads, buy a bigger caliber. If 44 isn't enough, buy a 454. If that's not enough, buy a rifle.

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There is no question that a Redhawk or Super Redhawk is more durable than a S&W 29/629. I like the older Redhawk better. I would have bought by now but I don't reload and factory ammo is too expense for me.
The better revolver is the Redhawk for shooting hotter loads.
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My Redhawk was my first 44 then I acquired a 629 . I got rid of my 629 due to the discomfort of shooting. The Smith was nice, but seemed to dig into the palm, where the Redhawk seemed to roll back with less bite.

Back in my younger days I was big on the 320 gr. Corbons. The Smith had a shorter cylinder and I could not fit my favorite load so that was another reason I traded it.
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Thanks all, especially exlogger. When I fired about 25 rounds out of my M29 I would get a split in the web of my hand. By the time I finished the box of 50, it was bleeding. That's my biggest complaint about it. My hope was that the Redhawk would have more roll instead of straight back recoil.
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Thanks all, especially exlogger. When I fired about 25 rounds out of my M29 I would get a split in the web of my hand. By the time I finished the box of 50, it was bleeding. That's my biggest complaint about it. My hope was that the Redhawk would have more roll instead of straight back recoil.
As to recoil, all other things being equal such as barrel length, etc; the Redhawk will have a little less kick do to the fact that it's a little heavier.
You might consider a SuperRedhawk in the 9.5" barrel. Or having the barrel on the gun of choice ported.
Also grips will make a BIG difference in felt recoil and sometimes you just have to try a few to see which fits your hand and gripping style the best.
Then of course you can always lighten up on the Magnum load or shoot 44 Specials out of it.
Lastly work on your grip and stance, it does sound like you were letting the gun jump around in your hand a little more than it should.
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Equip your 29 or 629 round butt with the grip for the S&W 500. The pain is gone. If you have a square butt model get the Pachmayr Decelerator grips. They work wonders!
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The Redhawk has a classic look with great balance. I've had mine since 96 and it has been a champ. I don't shoot the hot loads like I did in the past, but the 300 XTP's make for a great hunting load. Now-a-days the 44 specials seems to be my favorite choice for the range, "I'm not a spring chicken anymore".

Here is my 1996 Redhawk next to my 1977 Security Six.


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