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Old December 11th, 2010, 07:47 PM   #1
 
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357 Redhawk

Hello all. New here and have a few questions.

I have searched the forums and learned alot, but still have a few. I have a 357 Redhawk SS in 7.5". I have shot it all but 5 times myself and my father owned it originally, and really don't know how much he ever shot it. It still looks new. Love the gun.

How many were made in the 7.5"?
How can I tell what year it was actually made? Can I mount a red dot scope on it? I have read about hotter LONGER loads that only redhawks can accept. Does anyone know about those?

Thanks, Bob



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Old December 11th, 2010, 08:01 PM   #2
 
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That's a pretty rare piece (357 Redhawk). The 7.5in barrel is the most common in Redhawks I believe and what was used for the 44MAG...

You can check Ruger's website for year vs. SN. You can also download a copy of the Owner's Manual for free while you're there.

Never heard of 'longer' loads in 357MAG, unless you're thinking about the 357 Maximum. The MAX was a longer case that the MAG. The MAG is a longer case than a 38SPL from which it came. This prevents the user from putting the higher pressure cartridge into a gun that wasn't designed/built to take it. (so any 357MAG can also shoot cheaper 38spl but not the other way around.)

As far as I know the Max was only available in a Blackhawk. They are rare and recalled by Ruger. If you send in one for repair I believe they won't return it.

Assuming you have a normal Redhawk and not a 'super Redhawk' the gun was not designed for any kind of optic mount. I think you can have the top strap drilled and tapped but I don't think it's commonly done.

None the less, you have a great, strong gun that will handle just about anything you feed it and, with care, will serve your children.
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Yes, it's a Redhawk, not a Super Redhawk. That was the term I heard was longer case.

Where would I find the serial number?

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Yes, it's a Redhawk, not a Super Redhawk. That was the term I heard was longer case.

Where would I find the serial number?

Bob
If it's not on the right side of the frame, look at the grip frame bottom (serial # may be covered up by the grip).
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I have one of those too, it is a LOT of gun for a .357.

It is possible that the longer loads that you heard about are special handloads featuring 180 grain bullets made by Hornady. These bullets have two cannalures so that they can be seated longer than ordinary to take advantage of the longer cylinder of the Redhawk and to provide more space inside the cases for slower powders.

It is possible to get these bullets up to 1600 fps in the Redhawk with no damage to the gun. The only consideration in this loading is how much pressure the case will stand. There is a certain amount of stretching with each firing of these loads and the brass should not be loaded more than 3 times at that pressure level.
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Thanks for all the help so far.

I'm not into reloading- I don't know anything about it. So, were would I go about buying good rounds that you would feel comfortable using in Black bear areas for a protection sidearm? I know I could also buy a bigger gun, but I own this one and it is easy to fire, especially shooting more than once in double action. It's a little heavy, but I'm used to it.

The serial # must be under the handle. How do I get it off? It's a Hogue grip.

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Hello all. New here and have a few questions.

I have read about hotter LONGER loads that only redhawks can accept. Does anyone know about those?

Thanks, Bob
To add a little more to the issue of Redhawk loads, there was an article in the Handgun Hunters International Newspaper back in 1991 about this issue. The fellow had a 5.5" model and was able to achieve some very impressive ballistics with heavy cast bullets.

With the 180 RCBS silhouette bullet he got as high as 1660 fps. With the RCBS 200 FN intended for the 35 Remington, he got over 1600 fps, and with the Lyman 358627, which is their big 200 grain SWC, he was able to reach 1460 fps.

Thos loads were in .357 cases with the bullets loaded out to the full length of the cylinder. Functionally, the performance was in the 357 Maximum range.

The reasons for his success were, as you would expect, the long Redhawk cylinder and the very thick chamber walls. I never bothered to calculate the pressures, but they were definitely up there. My guess would be close to pushing 60KSI.
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Try
Ruger Redhawk Serial Number History
for a list of Redhawk serial numbers.
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Diesel,

Nothing more than ya own a KICK ASS GUN.

I know ya don't hand load....a shame, cause this gun BEGS to be tested...lol
it is an UBER STRONG DESIGN!

If yer not hurting for cash...and sure not a GUN GUY...hold onto it, it will increase in value........But a shame not "tested"....lol


EDIT SIDENOTE.....

Do a little research...although the >357 magnum is not considered a GREAT BLACK BEAR ROUND...yers can handle heavier loads!

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I would not consider anything less than 180 grain bullets in the 357 as adequate for black bears.

The lighter bullets will probably kill a black bear, but it may take him too long to die.
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I have a 7.5" .357 Redhawk, one of those revolvers I had 0 need for but just wanted one "just because"





It is massively overbuilt, the last pic says it all for me, those rounds look like .22's in that massive cylinder! I don't handload, I may in the future but again, as a .357 DA revolver fanatic I wanted the strongest one ever made, so tracking down the .357 Redhawk was a must for me. I have a .357 Blackhawk and those are no slouches for strength or durability either.

Be careful not to shoot in fast DA or to not crank the hammer back hard in SA shooting, you don't want that overly heavy cylinder whipping around and beating up the bolt stop and the stop notches. What it is, it's basically a revolver designed for .44 that was bored to .357, and Ruger didn't account for the heavier cylinder due to more metal from the smaller holes........It's one of the "weaknesses" of this gun that I found out about through this forum!
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That's a pretty rare piece (357 Redhawk). The 7.5in barrel is the most common in Redhawks I believe
I have heard that there were about 5,000 of each variation of 357 Redhawks made. I have also heard that the 7.5" SS version is the scarcest of them...which doesn't make much sense if in fact there were about 5,000 of each variation made. who really knows?

Perhaps the 7.5" SS is the most desirable?

My 357 Redhawk:




The grips are much better looking in person...lots of figure!

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I just noticed something...

Stantheman86, look at the cylinder release side of your 357 Redhawk, and look at mine....

See anything different? Look at the top radius of the grip. I don't know what that part is called (enlongated part that is partially covered by the grip), they are on opposite sides of the frame on our redhawks.

Wonder what is up with that? Maybe a design change in the short production time frame of the .357 Redhawks?

DW
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I just noticed something...

Stantheman86, look at the cylinder release side of your 357 Redhawk, and look at mine....

See anything different? Look at the top radius of the grip. I don't know what that part is called (enlongated part that is partially covered by the grip), they are on opposite sides of the frame on our redhawks.

Wonder what is up with that? Maybe a design change in the short production time frame of the .357 Redhawks?

DW

Mine is like yours.
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Looks like they switched the sides of the hammer pivot pin! I never would have noticed.......mine is an '83 if I recall correctly.....
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