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Old October 25th, 2010, 09:38 PM   #1
 
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Super Redhawk Vs. Redhawk

Hey everyone, thanks for taking the time to read this. I'm new to the forum and new to the world of handguns. So please excuse anything I say that may seem dumb.

I'm going to buy a .44 Magum, and had my heart set on a Redhawk model 5003. It has the 7.5 inch barrel and those sweet looking rosewood grips. Plus is has the scope mounts which the 5001 lacks. Unfortunately, these gun's just don't exist at any local gun shop, and I don't want to pay for shipping and paper work from gunbroker. I called 4 different shops and none of their suppliers even had any.
I noticed that the Super Redhawk is priced identically and everyone says it is a better gun. (probably because they have one to sell me or something). I personally don't like the grip, and it just lacks that true western revolver look. So my question is --- What do I gain by going to a super redhawk? I personally think I lose the looks, but is there something else I'm overlooking? Also. can you buy rosewood grips for Super? and if so does it look good or does it just not fit that gun.

Any input at all would be great, if someone has a good enough reason, I'll hold out and wait for Ruger to make some more redhawks. If not I may have to go Super. Thanks for your help



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Old October 25th, 2010, 10:43 PM   #2
 
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Well the issue is as the Germans would put it during WWII, do you want a panzer or a panzer. They are the same gun, the only difference is the aesthetics (i.e. frame) and where you can mount a scope.
I personally, prefer the traditional redhawk, because it looks like a revolver, and the SRH looks more like a chunky, oblong or obtuse and disproportionate revolver. (no, offence if you like obtuse guns, i.e. glock, XDM, etc) in terms of handling Its a matter of opinion, you need to feel both in your hands before you buy it. Go to a local range and ask if anyone has a 44 RH/SRH and ask to shoot it. If you cant do that then go to a good gun shop ask to see both. Feel how they weigh, and see what your fingers like. I think the rosewood grips for the SRH are encased in some rubber material to have a new "schick" style, wood classic and neo plastics. Again hideous in my opinion. More often however they come stock with a Hoe of a grip, I mean Hogue grips. Again only poking fun because I am bias and like the feel of a real wood grip. The only thing that I like is the fact that the SRH comes in a 9.5" barrel, which really tames the .44, but I will take my 7.5" RH Hunter any day of the week thank you. Again this is my opinion, and you need to make your own.
Good luck and I hope you find the firearm which suites your needs.
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You end up with more/better aftermarket grip options with the super redhawk over the regular redhawk. The super uses a grip peg....so any of the grips out there that fit the GP line also fits the super redhawk.

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I much prefer the looks of the Redhawk over the Super Redhawk, but the SRH shoots better in my opinion. If it came down to it, and my LGS had a 5.5" bbl Redhawk and a 7.5" SRH beside each other with the same price, I'd be taking home the Redhawk. The only problem is, the only Redhawk I have seen on a gun store shelf in the past 5 years is priced $90 OVER MSRP, and no other gun stores can get them.
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well I'm glad I'm not the only one who isn't too fond of the SRH looks. I Just didn't know if I was sacrificing quality for looks. Sounds like they will both perform similarily. I guess I'll call the local shop and have them order a Redhawk. I don't think I'll ever find a gun store with both in stock. Unless someone on here is from West Michigan and they know of such a place. I really hope it dosen't take Ruger 6 Months to run Production on that Gun. I want it soon. Thanks again and please continue to post your opinions.
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The Super Redhawk was introduced late in 1987, in .44 Magnum with 7.5 and 9.5 inch barrel lengths.[3] The final product used the same trigger design and same grip panels as the .357 Magnum GP-100, but had a larger, stronger frame with integrated scope bases
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I have a 9.5" .44 Mag with a vintage 7x Burris target scope. People can think the SRH is ugly all day, it doesn't bother owners like me who shoot super hot .44 Magnum into 4" groups at 100 yards.

I also have a .357 Redhawk, so I own both. I just like the ultra-modern badass look of the Super Redhawk, especially the .454 with the target gray and unfluted cylinder. One advantage of the SRH is that it is offered in the "big boy" calibers like .454 and .480.

My personal feeling is the SRH basically needs a scope to be "right", it is THE revolver to buy if you plan to scope it. I fired my SRH a few times with iron sights and it felt "incomplete", it just needs an optic on it......... The Redhawk is the choice if you want to keep it traditional with iron sights.

The Redhawks may be better looking guns to some, and I honestly don't think the SRH is that much "stronger" or more durable, I just think it is a pure utility gun made to withstand a ton of hot magnums and hard field use.

The SRH was born due to a new thread lubricant used by Ruger in the Redhawk being left on over a weekend, causing a very few Redhawks to suffer failures back in 1987. To stop the bad press the Super Redhawk with it's massive barrel threading surface was created to end the fears of "weak" Redhawks.

Think of a Super Redhawk as a GP100 on steroids. It's action is different than a Redhawk.

I had read Ruger says the sales of the standard Redhawk are less then stellar as of the last few years, and they only make batches of them now. There is no shortage of them on the used market though, which probably explains the lower sales of new ones.....

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I just got a 7.5 inch Super Redhawk. The trigger is awesome. The grips are extremely functional when shooting high power ammunition. That gun will shoot 330 grain, Garrett Hammerheads all day long, with over 1400 ft/lbs at the muzzle. The Super Redhawk is a brute beast with an awesome action and trigger. I bought it because I wanted a survival/big predator hand gun. Looks are for show. The Super Redhawk is all business.
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I like my Alaskan because all the ugly is gone.Now if they made a RH 454 witha 4" Barrel I would be on it even as a five shooter
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I like my Alaskan because all the ugly is gone.Now if they made a RH 454 witha 4" Barrel I would be on it even as a five shooter
Wouldn't it be practical to get a RH 45 and have a new 5 shot cylinder made by Reeder or Bowen???

Or at least that's what I am thinking of doing.
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I have both guns, a Super Redhawk (SRH) 454 and a Redhawk (RH) 44. Both are the 7.5" bbl versions, are excellent firearms, and NOT for sale. :-) And yes, both are very different guns.

WARNING: this turned out rather longer than I'd originally intended, but hopefully it is complete.

The RH is basically a scaled-up Security-Six with an extra lock on the crane. The trigger and hammer are both controlled by the same spring. Some believe that the trigger suffers in the RH due to this design. That's not my experience; I rather like the trigger. Being a Ruger, it's Big And Strong. The gun was designed around the .44 Magnum cartridge right during the Dirty Harry craze, so that's why it's so beefy.

The RH, to me, is at its best with Pachmayr Presentation Grips. Not only do they work better in my hands than the original wood stocks, but they also make the gun look better. The standard wood stocks just make this He-Manly-looking revolver look unbalanced, to me. The Hogue stocks also look really good on this gun, but they just don't fit my hands all that well. You have plenty of aftermarket options for the RH this way.

As for scoping a RH, I'd do it with one of those scope mounts that replaces the rear sight. I wouldn't feel comfortable mounting a scope on the barrel. That's where I think the SRH's design is inherently stronger. My RH has such an aftermarket, frame-mounted scope mount, so I have no worries.

The SRH, as has already been mentioned, is a scaled-up GP-100 with an extended frame. Unlike the RH, the GP/SRH action design uses separate springs for the trigger and the hammer. That means you can adjust your trigger without affecting the strength of your hammer strike. When Bill Ruger designed the SRH, he wanted something even stronger than the already-monstrously-strong RH. He got it. The SRH is built to take six rounds of the .454 Casull and was, until very recently, the only SIX-gun chambered for that cartridge.

As for the "looks" of the SRH, I think it's a very handsome gun, in a post-modern-industrial "Star Wars" sort of way. It looks very hairy-chested manly to me. The RH looks sleeker, no doubt. But I like "burliness" in a gun, too, and the SRH is definitely that. It's probably the most "He-Man" revolver in mainstream production.

And here's an example of the strength of the SRH's design. The SRH 454 is 53 ounces, nearly 3 and a half pounds. Taurus recently came out with their Raging Judge Magnum, the second (to my knowledge) six-gun in .454 Casull. That gun is 72.7 ounces--over a full pound more than the SRH. Now, you tell me which is the stronger design. :-)

Now, let's talk trigger pull. The stock trigger pull on the SRH is definitely heavier than on the stock RH. This is why I do my dry-fire practice with the SRH; it's a good workout.

As an owner of both, I promise you: you will be happy with either revolver, because both are "da bomb". Both are well priced on the used market. Both will eat just about anything you care to feed them. Both are very comfortable to shoot. And both are dead-on accurate.
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I have one for sale, PM me if interested.
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Some say the SRH has a "bad trigger", mine is bone stock, with stock springs, I added an old Ace trigger shoe and I'll tell ya, nothing within 200 yards is safe from this gun, probably beyond but my range ends at 200. I even shoot .44 Specials at 25 yards, I have target turrets on my 7x Burris and can adjust for various types of ammo and I feel like I'm placing my rounds in the target by hand at 25 yards. I even shoot light .44 Russian cowboy ammo as backyard plinker stuff. This is probably one of the most truly multi-purpose guns in my collection.......from .44 Russian mouse fart rounds with less kick than .38 Special, to CorBon and Buffalo Bore shark killer rounds that people hear in the next county, this one does it all.

If you want a "pretty" .44 Magnum revolver get yourself an older pinned & recessed S&W Model 29.....I did, and I haven't fired it in so long I can't remember. I play around with it after I watch "Dirty Harry" other than that it's a safe anchor. I just don't want to beat this pretty gun with lots of .44's, it's tight and I want it to stay that way.

I have no worries about shooting as much .44 Mag as I want in my SRH, it's already overbuilt for .44 Magnum IMO, I feel Bill Ruger designed the Super Redhawk with using it for ultra magnum cartridges like .454 and .480 in mind but decided to also offer it in .44 Magnum, for which it is immensely popular. I would love a 7.5" .44 to go with my 9.5" and also am looking for a 7.5" .454, because I love the look of that barrel length with the target grey and unfluted cylinder.......reminds me of an old Gasser revolver I used to have.

My only "dream" gun right now is a 4" 7-shot .357 Redhawk. If Ruger would make that one, it would be one of the last .357's I would ever need.

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