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Old May 9th, 2017, 05:57 AM   #1
 
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ruger redhawk 44 mag ammo isuues

hello guys and gals I purchased a used ruger redhawk 44 mag 7.5 last year I have been using factory ammo with not much luck. I luckily harvested my first deer with it at very close range. I can not seem to get the gun to group outside of 25 yds and it isn't much better inside of 25yds. I have benched the gun and adjusted sights accordingly. I have just started reloading in hopes of fixing the issue with maybe better handloads. I have tried American eagle 240 and Winchester 240 hp with no real success. any help or advice?



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What kind of groups are you getting? Have you examined the crown to make sure it is not damaged? Is the bore good and clean?
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I can get a 3 inch group at 25yds with an occasional flyer anything outside 25 yds I cant hit a 12 inch piece of paper. I have not cleaned the barrel since last 20 rounds so that could be a possibility but the gun was very clean when I ran the first 25 through it
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I would also check to see if the the bore has any rough spots
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If the gun is in working order, which most are, it is the ammo. Jacketed, Plated, or Cast?

Most have found that fitting the diameter of the bullet to the barrel is critical to good accuracy. I think accuracy is a group size of 1" or better at 25 yards. If your 3" is standing off hand, not horrible.
If it is bench rested, it is unacceptable in that Redhawk, which is a fine weapon.

You can keep trying different factory ammo and you may get lucky and find the matching size that fits your gun. If you get serious, slug the barrel. Pin gauge the cylinders. You then know your sizes. Order what you need. Each gun is different.

Two identical guns from the same manufacturer may not have the same readings. As large numbers of parts are produced, tooling gets worn and produces different tolerances.

There are many posts on improving accuracy with full details for pistol checkout and ammo matching.


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yes my 3 inch group is off hand i only benched it at 50 yds that's when i started having issues. i will check to see if the diameter fits the barrel i never thought of that one. is there any hand load ammo that most of you guys find that the red hawk really likes? im just talking bullets not recipies
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hello guys and gals I purchased a used ruger redhawk 44 mag 7.5 last year I have been using factory ammo with not much luck. I luckily harvested my first deer with it at very close range. I can not seem to get the gun to group outside of 25 yds and it isn't much better inside of 25yds. I have benched the gun and adjusted sights accordingly. I have just started reloading in hopes of fixing the issue with maybe better handloads. I have tried American eagle 240 and Winchester 240 hp with no real success. any help or advice?
American Eagle and Winchester 'white box' (WWB) ammo is normally thought of as 'budget' ammo. Better (= higher priced) ammo would likely produce better results. I only shoot handloads in my Marlin 1894 and Ruger Redhawk .44 Magnums. Since you are starting to handload, I would stay on that course and work up some good loads for your revolver. Measuring your cylinder throat diameters using mic-ed bullets or pin gauge tools will tell you a lot. Also inspect your gun's bore for copper fouling.
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yes my 3 inch group is off hand i only benched it at 50 yds that's when i started having issues. i will check to see if the diameter fits the barrel i never thought of that one. is there any hand load ammo that most of you guys find that the red hawk really likes? im just talking bullets not recipies
Most of the name-brand (Speer, Hornady, Sierra, Nosler, etc.) jacketed bullets in the 200-240 gr weight should perform very well in the .44 Mag Redhawk when paired with a powder like W296/H110 or Alliant 2400.
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I guess im a little confused I can definitely mic my cylinders but are you saying that in a box of 100 bullets that there will be that big of a difference? im assuming your saying mic the cylinders then measure every bullet before seating? am I correct in this statement?
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A 3" group free standing at 25 yards is nice shooting. 50 yards is beyond what the typical handgun range even provides. Expectations seem high, but I think I would get the barrel checked and see if the chambers are uniform. That is something Ruger should help with, assuming the gun is not obviously modified by Bubba before you.
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I guess im a little confused I can definitely mic my cylinders but are you saying that in a box of 100 bullets that there will be that big of a difference? im assuming your saying mic the cylinders then measure every bullet before seating? am I correct in this statement?
Ok: every revolver has one cylinder. That cylinder has a number of chambers. Each chamber has a 'throat' at the front end. The throat is what the bullet travels through before entering the forcing cone on the barrel and then into the barrel rifling. If the throat is 'tight', meaning smaller than the bullet diameter, then the bullet will be squished down in size before entering the barrel's bore. If the bullet is squished down smaller than the rifled bore, the bullet will then need to 'bump' back up to fit the bore tightly. This can cause issues with bullet ballistics. Thus, it is best to measure all of the cylinder throat diameters. Use known size bullets (mic them to determine) or by what are known as pin gauges. Some revolver cylinders will have one or more throats of a different size than the others. The cylinder throats can all be reamed out to the largest diameter throat. A proper size bullet should be a 'finger push' tightness through a throat.
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@ OP,. Nah, not so much the ammo. Had the same problem for years and was highly dissatisfied with the accuracy of mine (exactly what you have). I tried reloads, factory, etc. Sam results. Put a Leupold on it and it was much better but I didn't want a scope on it. I knew my trigger was heavy and do alot of my own rifle work (basic). After some research, I learned about the wolf spring kit. Absolutely amazing difference it pull wt and accuracy. I took the scope off and shoots just about everything I put through it. Cut my groups in half. U should give it a try. It is a cheap fix and with YouTube, it was a breeze

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If I could shoot 3 inch groups at 50 yards off hand, I'd be happy as heck!
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thanks 10 ring im going to get some springs hopefully that may change things. but honestly when I bench it even at 50 yds that s/a feels very lite. I think what your getting at is im pulling enough to throw the shot but not enough to notice myself doing it. and that is a very good possibilty
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A lighter trigger couldn't hurt ur accuracy. I never realized mine was as bad as it was but I read so many people having a lot of success with the Red hawk as far as accuracy goes. I could never find that. When they shot my Smith & Wesson , they were all very accurate. I later realized the only difference was the trigger period when I put a scope on my Ruger, accuracy improved. I then realized the only thing it could be is the trigger . Definitely improved my accuracy 2-3 fold

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