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Old September 2nd, 2010, 02:11 PM   #1
 
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Ran into some problems (Ruger SP101)

Picked up a Ruger SP101 about 3 weeks ago. I've taken it out twice, shooting a total of about 130 rounds (mixed bag of 158 grain .38+P and full house .357 loads). I've run into a couple of issues (one of which could possibly be due to my inexperience with revolvers).

First and foremost, i've had problems with what I believe to be called "cylinder binding" as the weapon gets hot. After putting several cylinders through the gun, the cylinder gets a bit hard to open and close. I've paid special attention to keeping the forcing cone and area under the ejection star clean, so could this just be due to heat expansion? I was shooting jacketed ammuniton, but could fouling mid-session still be an issue? As soon as I give the gun a few minutes to cool down, everything opens and closes as it should.

Next, I have come to realize that my barrel is ever so slightly canted to the left (when looking down the business end of the revolver.....with the cylinder open, of course!). I didn't notice it when I first inspected the revolver for purchase...but the more time I spend closely examining and fondling the new gun, I've definately noticed this imperfection.

As experienced revolver owners, how would you handle these issues? The first issue seems like not a big deal at all, as the revolver still functions. It's just tough to open up and close the cylinder. The second issue (barrel canting) seems to be more cosmetic than anything...but call me old fasion, when I pay $500 of my hard earned dollars for something, I expect it's workmanship to be quality.

Is it worth sending back to Ruger? I've heard horror stories of people sending their SP101's in with crooked barrels, only to get them back crooked in the OTHER direction...totally unacceptable.

Thanks in advance for the helpful advice I know I'll recieve.



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Old September 2nd, 2010, 03:11 PM   #2
 
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Old September 2nd, 2010, 03:25 PM   #3
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Brief:

How bad is the cylinder binding up? Is it bad enough where it becomes difficult to pull the trigger when shooting? Or is it just a little stiff opening and closing the cylinder? If it is the latter, I wouldn't worry about it too much, unless of course it gets bad enough where you can't get the cylinder to open at all. It could be the ammo you are using (so you can try some other brands), but I would guess that your SP101 was built just a little bit too tight.

As far as the barrel cant being off, I would ask you how does the gun shoot? If you are missing way to the left, or way to the right it may be that it's canted far enough that the front sight is way off. If she's shooting good I wouldn't worry about it too much, but I agree with you that a new gun shouldn't be off like that.

So IMHO, it boils down to the severity of the problems you are experiencing. Should you decide to send it back Ruger's customer service is great, and they will take care of you.
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Pretty sure the barrel canting is quite common on the SP101's. Mine is off a little if I remeber correctly (just ate dinner and am too lay to get up tp double check...) Like stated above, if it shoots to POA, it's no biggy. Again as stated above, if your cylinder isn't binding when pulling the trigger you should be alright. Otherwise your cylinder gap is probably a bit tight.
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Me, it would bother me for years to know it's not quite right... so it's likely fine, but I'd send it back for adjustment ...
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Old September 2nd, 2010, 04:59 PM   #6
 
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I'd personally send it back. Tell them the problems, and you'll be happy.
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Old September 2nd, 2010, 05:43 PM   #7
 
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Mine was canted- sent it back and had it back at my house 10 days later.
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Old September 2nd, 2010, 07:13 PM   #8
 
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The two COULD be related. Crooked barrel might mean crooked cut on the end of the forcing cone leading to binding between the front of the cylinder and the end of the barrel when they heat up and expand or, get a little fouling. I would send it back, it would always bother me.
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Mine was binding as well, didn't matter if it was hot or not. It seemed to happen on a particular chamber. Sent it back three weeks ago....still waiting.
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I would also send it to Ruger . With a new gun not being adjusted to perfection, I am sure they would make it right. Sometimes wonder how they get out the door like that. Got lucky with mine , although my wifes [ special engraved, davidsons 1-400] broke the firing pin on the second shot, lucky again we were at the range where I bought it and they had two , so they just traded, and this one is fine. They are all a bunch of parts and sometimes need adjusting...Good Luck.
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I received my SP 101 back form Ruger's shop. I'm a bit disappointed with the repair job. I'll post pics later.
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Did it only bind on the 357's or did it bind on the 38's as well? We're the primers being pushed back out?

I would call Ruger customer service and and talk to them. You'll likely have to return it but it should get taken care of.
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It would with .38 and .357 mag. The primers were not pushed out. They did repair the pistol to functional status, it just that to get the cylinder to close they ground/filed some of the piece immediately in front of the cylinder. They also cut a groove in there as well (I don't recall it there before).
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Mine has the same groove so I'm sure it was there to begin with.
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Mine is having a similar problem

So, I'm sorry, I don't know much about gun mechanics, but I bought my first gun, a hammerless Ruger SP101 about 6 months ago. I'm a woman, but I don't have a weak grip and I have a lot of trouble pulling the trigger after I've gone through 10-20 rounds. That absolutely destroys any chances at accuracy for little ole me. Also, one thing that REALLY worries me is that it often misfires. I am sure the hammer is hitting the pin, but it doesn't discharge. It rotates around and will go off if I fire it a second time. I usually get irritated, put it away and shoot my husband's guns out of frustration at that point.

I took it to a reputable gunsmith and I don't know how many rounds he shot, but he said nothing was wrong with it. Kind of reminds me of when the clutch on my car went out and the mechanic said nothing was wrong with it, but he didn't leave his foot on the clutch long enough for it to stall. I feel like it is the same kind of situation, because if you fire 10-20 rounds, it will always happen. I'm taking it back in next week.

How did Ruger resolve your problem? Do you think this is the same thing?
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