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Old April 6th, 2017, 10:42 AM   #1
 
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Do I need a LCR 357 Magnum?

I have a LCR .38 SPL+P 5 shot revolver.I here that the make of today's ammo make a lots of different in the power of a bullet.So how does a .38 + P ammo bullet compare to a 357 bullet ?



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It doesn't...I have an LCR357 that has been fed a steady diet of PDX1 Defender 130grain in 38+P...I can shoot them all day and not be any worse for the wear. A full load 357 of the same specs would make my hand smart and take notice. But that's because I'm a little recoil sensitive, other's mileage may vary.

That all being said, I like the option of having the ability of firing full house loads thru it, albeit it won't be very often.

I recently changed my EDC round to the Ruger ARX Defender in 38Special 77 grains and the recoil is noticeably lighter. They are now offering that round in a 86 grain 357. I have not yet tried it out but I'm guessing it has the similar recoil of the 38+P round I've been shooting. So having the 357 frame is a win win in my eyes.
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Revolver section might get you more answers.
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You'll get plenty of opinions on this one. I had both guns in question. I never really got the hang of firing snubbies and sold them both off. If you already have the 38, there's no reason to get the 357. I hardly ever shot 357 out of mine. I carried the 357 with 38+P Golden Sabers. Plenty of kick and power in that package. Carried the same in the 38. Recoil may have been slightly less in the 357, but minimal in my opinion. Spend the $$ on more ammo and shoot the 38 more.
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When I bought my LCR, I chose the 357 version just so I have that option. I carry +p in it, but still shoot 357 mag out of it at the range. A snubbie firing 357s is not very comfortable, but I do it just to keep in shape.

If the GP100 wasn't so big and bulky (and unconcealable), I would retire the LCR to my bedside and carry it. Firing 357 out of the GP100 after firing them out of the LCR, makes it feel like I'm shooting a squirt gun.
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There really is no comparison between a .38sp +P and a .357 mag other than they share diameter.

This article shows the comparison:

https://www.usconcealedcarry.com/app...vs-38-special/

You would be hard pressed to find a round with as much "one shot stopping power" like the venerable .357 magnum.

Don't know if you NEED a snubbie .357 but a solid revolver in that caliber can be a lot of fun to shoot if it has enough weight to help absorb the recoil.

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There really is no comparison between a .38sp +P and a .357 mag other that they share diameter.

This article shows the comparison:

https://www.usconcealedcarry.com/app...vs-38-special/

You would be hard pressed to find a round with as much "one shot stopping power" like the venerable .357 magnum.

Don't know if you NEED a snubbie .357 but a solid revolver in that caliber can be a lot of fun to shoot if it has enough weight to help absorb the recoil.
That data may be different out of a snub though, but in general you are correct.
I've considered full wadcutters in my daughter's Smith 38. It's hard to generate the velocity to expand hollow points out of a snub 38, and to a degree even out of the 357 short barrel.
A post above mentioned the Ruger poly ammo. That stuff is intriguing. I'm studying up on it. It does not rely on expansion. May be a great round out of these smaller guns.
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I bought the 9mm and never looked back. It has become one of my main CCW, and one of the most fun guns I have shot.

The Modern Day 9mm has come a long way for a defense load in the past decade. A wide range to choose from. It comes close to rivaling the 357. Yet it is cheaper, mild recoil, not as loud, more abundant, and just Plain FUN to shoot. I really have to say I love Moon Clips.

I buy a lot of 9mm range ammo and reload as well. Check out the recoil factors of all three guns. By the way, I was really surprised to find that the Bantam Boot grip performed so well. Here is a fantastic article on the gun.

Pocket Guns and Gear: Search results for lcr 9mm

Recoil factors of LCR's
357---Recoil Factor: 19.47 ft-lb
9mm--------- 7.27 ft-lb
38 special 7.16 ft-lb

Genitron comparisons.

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I say buy the 357 and sell your 38. It will be like getting two new guns for a discounted price. (after selling yours).

Think about it.....the best of both worlds. You can shoot 357's and any 38!

Go for it......you want it.......we want you to have it.....now get it.
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That data may be different out of a snub though, but in general you are correct.
I've considered full wadcutters in my daughter's Smith 38. It's hard to generate the velocity to expand hollow points out of a snub 38, and to a degree even out of the 357 short barrel.
A post above mentioned the Ruger poly ammo. That stuff is intriguing. I'm studying up on it. It does not rely on expansion. May be a great round out of these smaller guns.
Spent countless hours looking at all the test. It is now my main carry ammo. Hey, it also weighs less. That alone is a bonus.
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Thanks members i'll just stay with my LCR .38 SPL+P

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The real advantage would be having both .357 & .38 Special. I have a Ruger LCRX .38 Special that works for me I like the light weight of this gun. Ruger is now coming out with a LCRX in .357 it weighs 17.5 ounces vs 14.5 on the .38 Special LCRX that I now have. I want to get the .357 LCRX even though I would still shoot .38 Specials in it. Are the 3 ounces worth the differences in .357 vs .38 Special......???? I am not sure its really worth it. My .38 Special LCRX does everything right now that I need it this revolver. Now if it was a LCRX 3 with a 3 inch barrel in .357 then no brainer I would get one!!!
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NEED? a .357?

You do not NEED a .357 if you already have a .38+p. You might WANT one...but you likely do not need it. I have an LCR 38+p copper cylinder beauty. The short barreled light gun has PLENTY of pop. I buy 38+p and I also handload some that are probably stiffer than the store bought. Anything more out of that gun and it would probably be uncomfortable to shoot. If you WANT a 357 be warned that it would be great for defense, but many would consider it too much for lots of practice. It is not uncommon for .357 small revolver shooters to practice with .38 for that reason. .357 is still a little more powerful, but for self defense purposes the .38 is more than just fine...which is why Police officers carried it for many years.

If I were you ( just advice ) and already had a .38 and about $500+ burning a hole in my pocket I would find a gun that was a little further away from something I already owned. But that is just IMHO and my 2 cents worth.
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Pretty darn good advice!!!
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