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Old April 4th, 2017, 04:33 PM   #1
 
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Sell me on a Wiley Clapp SP101 to go with my GP100

I already have the GP100 Wiley Clapp version, and it has become one of my favorites. It gets a lot of holster time as my primary carry gun, and it's the first choice to go to the range with me. That said, it is a challenge to conceal it when not wearing​ a jacket or loose shirt. I like the features that the Wiley Clapp GP100 version has, and if I were to get an SP101, I would opt for the same. I already have a Smith 642 in .38 +p that is my usual summer carry gun, but I would prefer .357 for several reasons. Will the SP101 conceal substantially better than the GP100? How well does it shoot? Will it fit in a pocket like the Smith does? How well do they handle heavier loads like 180gr Buffalo Bore? I always need another gun, lol, but will the SP101offer enough carry advantages over the GP100, to justify spending $600 plus on it?



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It's a little smaller and I think the WC has the short barrel. I have the 3inch model and really like it. After all the stuff I've done to it it still doesn't compare to my GP44 though. I have no buyers remorse, but I think I would like a WC GP100 better. I am fairly large so concealing isn't a problem winter or summer. Some say the sp is too big for a pocket, but I think that is up to the individual. Mines handled all the loads I've shot through it. But I typically shoot only 125 grain bullets. My 38s are right at 950 and 357s are about 1100 or so on the chrony. They shoot to point of aim if I do my part. This equates to the factory ammo I use for defense purposes, and is what I practice with. Haven't tried any 180s.
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SP101 WC has the 2.25 inch barrel and the WC style of sights. Very nice revolver.
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Will the SP101 conceal substantially better than the GP100?
Yes

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How well does it shoot?
Very subjective but IMHO it shoots very well.

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Will it fit in a pocket like the Smith does?
No. It is not nearly as comfortable.

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How well do they handle heavier loads like 180gr Buffalo Bore?
I have never put anything hat big through one but I find the 642 with 38+Ps easier to handle than the SP101 with hot 357 loads. YMMV

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Will the SP101 offer enough carry advantages over the GP100, to justify spending $600 plus on it?
This is a tough one. I feel on it's own you definitely can justify spending the money. If the only reason you are buying it is because of advantages over the GP100, I would say no. The 642 does that job better. Something to consider though I use 38 +ps as a defense load with the SP101. If you are dead set on 357s then I would say yes. Obviously that is something the 642 can't do.

My EDC is the 642 with Hornady Critical Defense 38+p. Just like every decision when it comes to firearms. It's all about which compromises you are willing to make for which benefits you want to have.
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While I do like the 642, I would prefer to carry something in .357. If I buy a SP101, it would be expressly for the ability to do that in a platform that is smaller than the GP100. I've never had a Ruger that I didn't like, and I'd bet that I'd appreciate the SP101 on its own merits.

Thanks for the replies so far, and hoping to hear from folks that have carried both models what they think of the difference.
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I carry them both. The sp is lighter but with a good belt and holster the gp is not that difficult to carry.
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because your gp 100 needs a friend.
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There you go best reason I have read yet!!!
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Both for the GP and SP concealability can be enhanced with grip selection. I have a set of Thai Jaruwan round butt grips for the GP. I think he makes grips also for the SP. The SP cylinder diameter is 1.35" and a GP 1.56" and as a reference a J frame 1.31". Pocket carry of the SP or anything for that matter is a matter of pocket size and how tight the pants fit. I can pocket carry my SP and I am 5' 10" and 210 lbs. The SP will carry well with a good holster and belt. As another commented I think your GP needs a relative near. Right now I have a Hogue wood grip on my SP and have put 200 rounds of 125 gr full power loads through it at a session without too much problem. As to 180's never shot them but somewhere on one of the forums have seen where a few have fired them through it. The gun will take them, whether one's hand does is another question.

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I can pocket carry my Sp101 WC in cargo shorts with deep pockets. I don't but I could with reasonable comfort. If pocket carry and a smaller footprint are paramount then you might look at the new LCRx 357. It's nowhere near as pretty as the WC revolvers but it is very versatile.
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I have a 3" SP and for me personally it's just too heavy to pocket carry comfortably, an IWB holster is much more comfortable in my opinion.

I have never shot 180gr BB through my SP, I would probably save those for its bigger brother the GP.

I shoot 158gr in my SP with Hogue wood grips, it stings the palm a bit after a box of 50 rounds, but nothing that's unbearable.
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An alternative is the LCR in 357. I'm not a fan of shooting 38+Ps through my LCR 38, but it's manageable and it's not uncommon to forget I even have it on with an IWB. The LCR 357 would give you 357 ability and a little more weight than the LCR 38 but keep the smaller dimension. I also have boot grips on mine which might add to the discomfort when shooting. But hey, I didn't buy it for comfort; I can shoot my GP100s for that. To me, that would be a worthwhile difference over the GP to get.

With that said, I do keep looking at SP101s because I have a soft spot for stainless that the LCR doesn't satisfy. Hah!
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I've had an LCR in 38+P before, anf its not something that I'd want to shoot hot 357's out of. I've tried a smaller grip on the GP100, but it's still a large gun to conceal. It's sounding like the SP101 would be a reasonable compromise between concealability and ability to handle heavier rounds.
How does the SP101 compare in size to a 2-3/4 Speed Six?
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I've had LCRs (38, 9mm, 22 mag) and SP101s (357 DAO, 357 3", Wiley Clapp, 22LR on its way to my LGS) and a GP100 (4"). The GP100 I felt was too heavy to conceal (and an inch on the barrel doesn't add that much weight), I didn't even like it that well for hiking. For the LCRs, I'm just not a fan of plastic, both my 9mm and 22 mag had to make a trip back to Ruger, the 38 had no issues, just wasn't my cup of tea and wasn't noticeably easier to carry than the SP101. I carry my SP101 WC everytime I carry. The sights are awesome, I find coke cans to be a good (though challenging) target at 15 yards, which I feel pretty comfortable with, though I'm working on improving (life gets in the way of shooting sometimes). I carry my SP101 WC in a Sticky IWB holster when conceal carrying, and have no issues with it moving and find it fairly comfortable (even in the car), good luck trying that with any GP100. I carry in a leather OWB when hiking.

Go with the SP101, although your GP100 might get lonely when you end up leaving it at home all the time.
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