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Old March 21st, 2017, 08:47 PM   #1
 
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Training on a budget

Hi there, i could not afford to go to the range as much as needed, i could not afford to have all 6 laser training cartridge, so im just using 1 g sight 38 special laser trainer and 5 tipton snap caps. I'll see if this dry firing will improve my grouping when i go to the range this summer.
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Old April 13th, 2017, 03:09 PM   #2
 
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Google the LaserLyte Pre. They are $89.95 on Amazon.

Not exactly the cheapest solution, but cheaper than 6 laser rounds! I have one and it works (mostly). The two biggest caveats are that the plastic adjustable collar can get slightly chewed by the rifling of the barrel if you aren't gentle inserting it, and cocking the hammer on my Redhawk is loud enough to trip the sensor on the laser. The second part is only a potential problem if you are using a laser activated target.

Paired with lasrapp.com you're just missing the bang (LASR will make a bang through your computer speakers) and the recoil. The way I see it, with a $35 minimum at the range, I could get more sessions in at home dry firing for the cost. It's not perfect, but my reasoning is that I can shoot a box of rounds once a month and put all the dry firing technique to the test while acclimating to recoil.

I've taken to dry firing a half our or an hour at home with this set up like some other people use indoor putting greens.
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$35 per range trip....wow....does that include ammo. I am very fortunate based on that. After retiring i started visiting a range i shot at alot 25 yrs ago. I live in a large metropolitan area(SoCal). The range has a club i was able to join. It's a 25 yard bullsye range, its outdoors,i paid $120 for range access for a YEAR....no daily fees. Given that i reload my standard ammo is 200 gr swc,powder coated cast bullet, pretty cheap to load. I shoot 2 days a week, sometimes three. All i need to do is sign in. No gangbangers...all retired leo's and bullseye competitors....and it's only 12 miles from my house.....Mike
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Twenty-five years ago, friends gave me a Daisy Powerline 747 match air pistol. This is the least expensive way for me to practice sight alignment and trigger control when I can't go to the range and will reveal whether I am overgripping, jerking the trigger, etc. I still take out the air pistol on occasion, although more often my mouse gun/.22lr goes along to the range to practice with before working with my conceal carry.

Mainly, it doesn't cost anything to visualize and practice proper technique in stance, grip and uniformity from shot to shot.

Keep up the good work and positive attitude as we all strive to improve our shooting. ��
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LGS and indoor range is $12 lane fee for 1/2 Hour + $17 for .45 ACP 50 rds (re-manufactured locally!) + tax. Price goes up quick if I buy a 20 pc box of Hornady .45C rounds. The old hands at the range are quick to tell me I have a real nice gun, but it sure is expensive to shoot. I've said in other posts that the Redhawk 45/45 is my only handgun. That isn't quite true, I have a 6" HR Sportsman 999 that I inherited, but the top break and feel of the trigger (gritty, stiffer, but shorter than my Redhawk) is so different that I don't consider using it to train.

The range is clean, clientele isn't scary, and the staff is fairly professional. But it isn't cheap! I can't get into hand loading right now, but in the future I may look into it if I can save costs with the benefit of developing my own loads.
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My post count is too low to link the article, but just Google "South African pistol team dry fire practice" and read up.

So much of good pistol shooting is acquiring the front sight and trigger control. You can really improve your shooting if dry-fire is properly done.
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Google the LaserLyte Pre. They are $89.95 on Amazon.

Not exactly the cheapest solution, but cheaper than 6 laser rounds! I have one and it works (mostly). The two biggest caveats are that the plastic adjustable collar can get slightly chewed by the rifling of the barrel if you aren't gentle inserting it, and cocking the hammer on my Redhawk is loud enough to trip the sensor on the laser. The second part is only a potential problem if you are using a laser activated target.

Paired with lasrapp.com you're just missing the bang (LASR will make a bang through your computer speakers) and the recoil. The way I see it, with a $35 minimum at the range, I could get more sessions in at home dry firing for the cost. It's not perfect, but my reasoning is that I can shoot a box of rounds once a month and put all the dry firing technique to the test while acclimating to recoil.

I've taken to dry firing a half our or an hour at home with this set up like some other people use indoor putting greens.
Thanks JC74, I currently have 2 of the Gen2 G sight laser cartridges then last night scored a good deal on 4 Gen1 G sight laser cartridges for $100 shipped on ebay, I cant pass up on that, hopefully it works well with the Itarget app because G sight mentioned that the laser strength on the Gen 1 is weaker than The Gen2.
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My post count is too low to link the article, but just Google "South African pistol team dry fire practice" and read up.

So much of good pistol shooting is acquiring the front sight and trigger control. You can really improve your shooting if dry-fire is properly done.
Thanks Srben, I'll check it out.
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LGS and indoor range is $12 lane fee for 1/2 Hour + $17 for .45 ACP 50 rds (re-manufactured locally!) + tax. Price goes up quick if I buy a 20 pc box of Hornady .45C rounds. The old hands at the range are quick to tell me I have a real nice gun, but it sure is expensive to shoot. I've said in other posts that the Redhawk 45/45 is my only handgun. That isn't quite true, I have a 6" HR Sportsman 999 that I inherited, but the top break and feel of the trigger (gritty, stiffer, but shorter than my Redhawk) is so different that I don't consider using it to train.

The range is clean, clientele isn't scary, and the staff is fairly professional. But it isn't cheap! I can't get into hand loading right now, but in the future I may look into it if I can save costs with the benefit of developing my own loads.
Jc74 the range i go to is Targetmasters in Milpitas, approx $15 per hour and for a box of 100 Winchester training rounds 38 specials approx $45 dollars (i only use half per visit) and maybe gas money to drive over their would still cost me almost $40 per visit. So you are right this laser training approach would be economical and helpful to supplement our training.
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$35 per range trip....wow....does that include ammo. I am very fortunate based on that. After retiring i started visiting a range i shot at alot 25 yrs ago. I live in a large metropolitan area(SoCal). The range has a club i was able to join. It's a 25 yard bullsye range, its outdoors,i paid $120 for range access for a YEAR....no daily fees. Given that i reload my standard ammo is 200 gr swc,powder coated cast bullet, pretty cheap to load. I shoot 2 days a week, sometimes three. All i need to do is sign in. No gangbangers...all retired leo's and bullseye competitors....and it's only 12 miles from my house.....Mike
You are lucky Sir!!
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My current training session done at 15 to 20 ft.
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I dont think its zeroed in well scoring wise i have not figured out how to center the target on my phone yet.
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