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Old March 19th, 2017, 04:22 PM   #16
 
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The DA trigger pull on my SP101 is very stiff and heavy, from what I've read this is normal on the SP. I know some guys swap out the heavy factory springs for lighter Wolff springs. What are the pros/cons of such a swap? I would rather live with a heavy trigger pull than risk light primer strikes, particularly on a firearm that's sole purpose is home/self defense. Any thoughts...



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Strip it down and you can smooth it out some or you can dry fire it. Sounds like you have 100 rounds thru it so it should be smoothing out some. To me reliability is paramount so I left the stock springs in mine. The round count on mine is 3,000 + and I did a little smoothing after I first bought it and it is a decent trigger now. It's a great little revolver, congrats and enjoy.
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There is a potential for light primer strikes or sluggish trigger return if you go too light on the springs. It's a matter of testing with your chosen ammunition to ensure reliability.

Also, beyond springs, judicious polishing to reduce friction creates a smoother pull which feels "lighter" subjectively. This often eliminates the temptation to go too light on the springs!!


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I think I will stay with the factory springs but I may do some internal polishing, as noted above I've read time and time again that "dry firing" is the ticket to a smooth Ruger trigger.

This topic (dry firing) seems to be hotly debated on this forum, there are those that insist you are causing damage without snap caps and those that insist no damage is being done at all and that snap caps are merely a placebo to make one feel good. I tend to agree with the latter train of thought, even Ruger in their very own literature clearly states it's ok to dry fire your revolver.
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Welcome from Tennessee and thanks for the picture.
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Nice gun. You are correct. The GP is a pleasure to shoot all day with magnums. Very easy gun. I'm sure the SPis fun
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I think I will stay with the factory springs but I may do some internal polishing, as noted above I've read time and time again that "dry firing" is the ticket to a smooth Ruger trigger.



This topic (dry firing) seems to be hotly debated on this forum, there are those that insist you are causing damage without snap caps and those that insist no damage is being done at all and that snap caps are merely a placebo to make one feel good. I tend to agree with the latter train of thought, even Ruger in their very own literature clearly states it's ok to dry fire your revolver.


Dry fire it. Your not gonna break it. Just my opinion. This will probably start a heated discussion tho, lol
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I dry fire mine, but I spend more time cocking and deco king it and letting things wear in that way. Also, I will cock it, let the hammer down with my thumb while holding the trigger back, and then just work the trigger back and forth without letting it reset. I doubt this is the most efficient way of smoothing things out, but it much smoother than before after that, weeks of dry firing and 700 rounds. I did do the polishing job found in this forum and changed the springs. I have experimented but now have the 10# hammer and 8# trigger springs installed and have had 0 light primer strikes in the last 400 rounds...which is where I replaced the springs. The trigger spring was a little light at first, but I polished it a bit more, and barely used any 2000 grit wet and dry in the trigger return plunger hole. Made a huge difference.

I'm sorry to go off topic...Montana Six Shooter, that is one heck of a find and an awesome pistola!!!!!!!!!!
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Thanks Hooksetter, and everyone else for the replies. I guess after only 120 rounds I can't consider my Ruger "broken in" yet. After some polishing and copious dry firing i'll see where the trigger action stands and maybe experiment with different spring weights at that point.

What are the opinions on MIM parts in the Ruger world? The guys over on the S&W forum make a huge stink over both pre-lock and pre-MIM guns. The pre-lock thing I can understand, I don't want an internal lock on my gun either, that's why I won't buy a new S&W, but what about the pre-MIM thing? Are MIM parts inferior to cast or forged parts? or is that just internet hogwash?
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Willkommen

Welcome to the group and Congrats on the purchase. I love, we love, Ruger revolvers and we are certain you will love yours too. I have 3. Who buys a gun ans sticks it in a safe with only 20 rounds through it? Weird.... Glad it is in the hands of a person who will give it a workout now and then!
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I think I will stay with the factory springs but I may do some internal polishing, as noted above I've read time and time again that "dry firing" is the ticket to a smooth Ruger trigger.

This topic (dry firing) seems to be hotly debated on this forum, there are those that insist you are causing damage without snap caps and those that insist no damage is being done at all and that snap caps are merely a placebo to make one feel good. I tend to agree with the latter train of thought, even Ruger in their very own literature clearly states it's ok to dry fire your revolver.
Because mine is a DAO I changed out the factory springs which allows me to stage the hammer readily with a smooth transition into the trigger phase. Makes it a joy to shoot. Never felt the need on my SA/DA Security Six.

Regarding the dry fire debate...I have dry fired all 4 of my Ruger revolvers (2 LCR's, a Security Six and my SP101) consistently and repeatedly as I sit in my recliner in the evening watching TV (I've killed one particular flower vase thousands of times) working on my staging and steady trigger pull. This dry fire practice shows up at the range with tight groups. The manufacturer says you can do it...They should know.
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What are MIM parts? I can't consistently stage the hammer on my sp...yet...but it's getting closer. It seems like there's not a lot of distance for the cylinder to travel between lockup and the hammer dropping. My GP is a whole different story though.
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Welcome from North Dakota Nice pick up
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I am a long time lurker, first time poster. Lots of good information here, when deciding between a GP100 and SP101 this forum was very helpful and informative. As you can tell by the pic I chose the SP101, nothing at all wrong with the GP100 but the SP101 better fit the particular needs I was looking for which are primarily a smaller "nightstand piece" for home defense that my wife can also handle if need be.

I found this little 3" gem locally on Armslist for $375 it's a 2009 model (pre-MIM for whatever that's worth) that's lived its life mostly as a safe queen (only 20 rounds thru it). I bought it just as pictured, semi-polished, Hogue wood grips and Trijicon night sight. The lock up is tight and timing is spot on, B/C gap is a tight .004" overall it was a very well maintained revolver.

Now I am on the hunt for a killer deal on a 4" GP100
It's a beauty,congratulations!
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That's a beauty! Congrats!

Since this is a defensive gun, I would keep the springs factory and not do shims. There may be additional legal complications if you were to use a modified gun in self defense. Questions about if you were looking to use it on somebody, etc. If you enjoy revolvers, use that soon to be new GP100 as a range toy and modify away. Since it is a bedside gun, you may find the GP100 better suited for the task with the extra weight making it more manageable and an extra round as a bonus. Also, 357 indoors will be both deafening and the flash will be blinding at night. You might want to check out some 38 special +p rounds for defense.

Great gun. I thought I'd throw in a few extra opinions for free. I use a 4" fixed sight DAO GP100 with a front night sight loaded with 38 special +p as a bedside gun after far too much research.
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