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Old March 2nd, 2017, 04:14 AM   #1
 
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GP100 Wiley Clapp...very disappionted

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Yesterday I finally got my Wiley Clapp GP100 on my permit and brought it home. I am so disappointed ...the entire gun feels "gritty" like it is full of sand. I suspect the matte stainless finish has a lot to do with it but between the heavy gritty DA trigger, heavy gritty cylinder release and ejector rod I am looking for a good Ruger gunsmith before I even fire the gun.
I would greatly appreciate any recommendations you might have.
I have 2 Vaqueros and a 44mag Super Redhawk Alaskan and this is the first Ruger that has disappointed me.
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Old March 2nd, 2017, 04:30 AM   #2
 
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Honestly it will smooth out with shooting. I understand it may be a little disappointing but is it really worth spending money on that when you could spend the money on ammo and it accomplishes the same thing? Heck even $10 snap caps accomplish this as well. When I had mine cerakoted it was the same way for a short time but smoothed out better.

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Ruger has become rather notorious for not cleaning up the machining flashing inside the frame of their revolvers and removing loose debris, and in my experience the GP100 can be one of the models most affected. However, it's something fairly easily corrected by either a gunsmith or a shooter who is comfortable with cleaning and smoothing up the frame and components inside.
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Put several hundred rounds through it and dry fire it a lot and it will smooth out.
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If I were in your position, I would dry fire it like 150 times and just work every moving part a whole bunch, then if its not noticeably better at all I would seek help.

Honestly youd probably waste more time trying to find someone to gunsmith it than just sending it back to ruger.
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GPs aren't too difficult to break down. Instructions are everywhere on line. Make sure nothing is in the action binding up.
Agree with just shooting the heck out of it too. It should smooth with time.
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Buy Rugers used.

Tanks that had someone else clean them up and remove sharp edges are cheaper and less risk. Someone else has already done the required dry firing. If it's really a tank, it should have no downside to being used.

Some Ruger owners consider "using it for awhile" to be a requirement.

Using that famed Ruger customer service is what owning a new Ruger is all about.
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Hi All
Yesterday I finally got my Wiley Clapp GP100 on my permit and brought it home. I am so disappointed ...the entire gun feels "gritty" like it is full of sand. I suspect the matte stainless finish has a lot to do with it but between the heavy gritty DA trigger, heavy gritty cylinder release and ejector rod I am looking for a good Ruger gunsmith before I even fire the gun.
I would greatly appreciate any recommendations you might have.
I have 2 Vaqueros and a 44mag Super Redhawk Alaskan and this is the first Ruger that has disappointed me.
Thanks for listening
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I feel your pain, I have two alternatives to offer: 1. many ranges these days have ultrasonic cleaners available and for a small reasonable fee with get all the crud out and lube your pistol. 2. Contact Ruger customer service, outline your issue with instructions that they clean out the pistol regardless of the gunsmith saying it is in specifications. I had a friend do this with a super blackhawk and his came back in 8 days perfect. It is true but ridiculous with prices as high as they are for ammo to expect someone who has spent good money to put a couple of hundred bucks worth of ammo through a pistol they have spent hundreds of dollars on. I really think Ruger will help you and failing that as above find a range with a cleaner and try that.
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First question did you buy it at the LGS so you could work the action and inspect the revolver before you bought it?? Now I would guess that there are burrs & metal shavings etc in the action and innards. I would try to clean your GP100 out first by just a general cleaning spray some lubricant into the revolver & dry fire the gun working the action etc. If this doesn't eventually smooth the gun up then I guess you can look on You Tube on how to tear apart a Ruger GP100 and see what you might be able to smooth up or send the gun to Ruger. My own Ruger GP100 WCII I haven't had this problem because I looked at several Ruger GP100's both blued & stainless from a standard model to a Match Champion etc. I found several standard Model GP100 4 inch barrel adjustable sighted that had nicer actions then some Wiley Clapp models to also Match Champion models. I see here all the time on the Ruger Forum of guys that bought a Ruger GP100 & Ruger SP101's with the same problems gritty actions etc. Most of this can be avoided by doing a thorough inspection of the actual revolver before putting the cash down to buy it!!! My GP100 was very smooth when I bought it but not as smooth action trigger pull etc vs my S&W Model 66. Now its actually a smoother action then my S&W is by just shooting it and cleaning it and I lube mine with Rem Oil. I haven't had to tear it down replace springs etc because I guess some of these Ruger GP100's might get a better inspection etc before they are sent out for retail. Good Luck from what I have read so far is great advise I hope things work out.
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Thanks Guys!

Well this was bound to happen with a gunbroker.com purchase... you cant
play with the gun until after it has arrived. No sweat...our club has our
own "gun whisperer" who is great with Rugers so I set him loose on the
GP100.
Thanks again for your input!
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Dante your Ruger does have a warranty and Ruger Customer Service is very good. Your GP100 probably needs to be "deburred" so to speak. I have a Ruger SP101 3 inch .327 FM I got it unfired NIB in a private sale. SP101's are known for their stiff actions trigger pulls etc. I had to dremel polish the edges of the hammer spurr trigger & trigger guard all of the edges were very sharp etc. My SP101 still has a heavy trigger pull but the action has smoothed out with use. I see many that do the spring and shim stuff to their revolvers some with great results some not so great. Simple cleaning then shoot the heck out of it for a few hundred rounds this alone might take care of your revolver. I compared two GP100's 2 years ago one blued the other Stainless well the stainless steel GP100 the action was gritty rough and the action hung up where I couldn't cycle the action! On a $700.00 plus revolver. This is why I looked and looked until the right GP100 showed up. A GP100 WC and Match Champion are basically a standard production model. In other words no special attention to fine tuning & assembly. With the amount of firearms Ruger puts out there are going to be some that will need extra attention. I just get a alarm with your mention of gun whisperer etc unless just something simple like a good deburring & cleaning good luck
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Last few Ruger revolvers I bought were purchased new online, and yeah it is a crapshoot as to the final fit and finish. My last SP101 was NIB and really smooth on the outside; even the usual sharp edges typical of the model were not there. The cylinder fit was not great it had some serious endshake that I had to correct. The action was gritty as well. Once I had it apart and polished the internals though it was great.

The last GP100 I bought online and it came in pretty well fit and finished but the trigger group assembly would not snap all the way into the grip frame, thus making the trigger pull heavier and leaving a gap at the seam between it and the frame.

After going through 4 GP100s and 5 SP101s of somewhat recent production (not all bad but most poorly fit) I've switched to 30+ year old S&Ws and Ruger's Six series revolvers.
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Buy Rugers used.

Tanks that had someone else clean them up and remove sharp edges are cheaper and less risk. Someone else has already done the required dry firing. If it's really a tank, it should have no downside to being used.

Some Ruger owners consider "using it for awhile" to be a requirement.

Using that famed Ruger customer service is what owning a new Ruger is all about.
Welcome to the forum.

Prescott gives good advice. Ruger revolvers are tanks that are built to last, but New out of the box they are not works of art. Ruger revolver and refined are not usually seen in the same sentence.
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I'll just say this: with any gun purchase, new or used, I first obtain info on detail stripping the gun. I then fully strip, clean, inspect, lube, and reassemble the gun before ever firing a shot or dry firing it much. The GP100 mechanism is fairly simple, and most issues can easily be fixed.
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If you know how to detail strip the GP100 you can clean it easy. My GP100MC came tip top shape, the grip not so much, but I was going to change it anyway.


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