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Old February 15th, 2017, 03:46 PM   #1
 
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Have the .45acp issues with the Redhawk been resolved?

Been putting off a 45 acp double action revolver (625 JM or Redhawk) due to the early issues with 45 acp in the Redhawk. Seemed like there were major issues with some Redhawks, and no issues with others. Some moon clip issues, some cylinder issues.

Its 2017 and I see that Davidsons has a good amount in stock, as well as some Smith 625JMs. I'm partial to the Redhawk because its a Ruger and it also shoots 45lc.

Any recent word if the initial issues have been worked out and the current stock is reliable with 45acp?



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Old February 16th, 2017, 05:23 AM   #2
 
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I purchased a new redhawk, 45 auto/45 colt in October 2016, I have approx 1000rounds of 45colt and 50 rounds of 45 acp thru the weapon, With no problems at all. This gun is great.

It is a joy to shoot, with med power 45 colt, have not tried heavy loads yet. The recoil with the 45 acp rounds is almost non-existence. A real nice weapon. The round butt is also great for carrying, as well. I carry it in a simply rugged pancake while hunting, with no problems. I prefer to carry it over my other guns when working on my hunting land.

Hope this helps you in your decision.
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Bought the Redhawk 45 Colt/ACP this summer.

Mine would not reliably fire the aluminum case 45 ACP. Light strikes and at least two per cylinder would not go off. Standard brass case 45 ACP, okay, with only a very occasional failure to fire with some ammo, especially Winchester. No problems with Federal and most other brands.

Accuracy with the 45 ACP was mediocre, however, not on a par with my 1911s or my Blackhawk 45 Convertible 4 5/8" barrel, especially the Blackhawk. Tough to get a string of five 45 ACP without a flyer with the Redhawk.

The grip on the Redhawk was fine with standard 45 Colt loads, but brutal with heavy 45 Colt loads. Not a good fit for me as far as managing recoil. Accuracy with 45 Colt was good, but still not as good as with my Blackhawk.

In the end, my Blackhawk 45 Convertible could do everything better as far as accuracy and reliability, so sold the Redhawk.

May have been just my gun, but take it for what its worth. If I ever decide to go with a DA in 45 ACP, again, it will be with the Smith 625.
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I have not experienced any of the above listed problems. I can rap off 6 acp as fast as I can pull the trigger. No light strikes or failure to fire. I reload all of my own ammo, thus I do not have any experience with factory ammo. As far as accuracy goes I have not tested the 45 acp for this except to be sure it is well within a defensive need should there be one.
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More definitive ACP accuracy testing out to 25 yards with multiple loads off a rest would be necessary to provide any useful data in answering your question.

In ACP, there were two issues- accuracy and ignition reliability.
We'd need to hear more from others to establish a broader basis in forming any conclusions.

I had no ignition problems with either of the two early samples I had here, but did share the accuracy & recoil experiences that NC Gal notes.
Chief mentions no ignition issue, but hasn't tested for formal accuracy.

Need more responses with specific info included.
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Thanks

Appreciate the responses.

The jury is still out for now.....
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...If I ever decide to go with a DA in 45 ACP, again, it will be with the Smith 625.
Same here. In 2008, I wanted a 'big bore' revolver. My final two were .44 Mag Redhawk or .45 ACP S&W 625. I ended up with the Redhawk.

Unless Ruger releases a .45 ACP-specific (includes .45 Auto Rim) Redhawk, I wouldn't count on a .45 Colt/.45 ACP Redhawk performing well with the ACP round.
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The only issue I had was I needed a T-grip and If I get bullet pulling from the recoil with .45 acp, then accuracy diminishes with the last rnds in the clip.
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TK Customs issues???

I wonder if any of the 45lc Redhawks that have been converted by TK Customs have had any issues with 45acp.

Also I just havent encountered very many complaints about the 625 S&Ws - that camp pretty much sings their praises.
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I still want a convertible redhawk.
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So do I bwinters. Redhawk is a proven platform that I want to add to my collection. Just want the expected revolver reliability.

Actually hope and perhaps I'll wait a little longer to see if Ruger comes out with some different barrel lengths
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I worked with a custom conversion of a Ruger Super Red in .454 Casull a while back.
It had been altered to shoot ACPs in clips.

ACP accuracy was dismal & velocities were way down.

I own a Smith 625, does well as a dedicated ACP revolver, with a dedicated ACP cylinder.
I wouldn't bother buying a .45 ACP-ONLY Red, much more gun (weight & bulk) than needed for the caliber.
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I owned a Ruger Blackhawk, 45 colt, with extra 45 acp cylinder, and I found that having to adjust the sights each time you changed cylinders to be a pain. Was never able to regulate the poa to poi thru ammo modification for both cylinders without adjusting the sights. In fact after buying the redhawk I sold the Blackhawk. This redhawk , 45 auto/45colt may not be a target gun, but I'm not a target shooter. The bashing of the 45 acp abilities is a bit over the top, this gun really shines with the 45 colt capabilities, and the durability of the weapon. I carried smiths of various models, on the job and found they also have their faults, and problems. The Ruger is one tough gun, I'd pick a Ruger over a Smith any day

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In the testing I did with the .45 Convertible Red, I found the POI obviously varies by up to several inches between .45 Colt & .45 ACP loads in general, but if you match bullet weights & bullet velocities as closely as you can between the two calibers, you can stick with the same sight adjustment at closer distances.

Ruger may have gotten the ignition issue cleaned up, but the two-caliber one-cylinder gun will always be susceptible to accuracy variations in the ACPs because of the longer Colt chambers.

Some ACPs will shoot well, some won't.
The .45 Colt loads should remain fairly consistent, with less of a spread from load to load.
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Bought the Redhawk 45 Colt/ACP this summer.

Accuracy with the 45 ACP was mediocre, however, not on a par with my 1911s or my Blackhawk 45 Convertible 4 5/8" barrel, especially the Blackhawk. Tough to get a string of five 45 ACP without a flyer with the Redhawk.

In the end, my Blackhawk 45 Convertible could do everything better as far as accuracy and reliability, so sold the Redhawk.

May have been just my gun, but take it for what its worth. If I ever decide to go with a DA in 45 ACP, again, it will be with the Smith 625.
I have been interested in buying a Blackhawk .45ACP/.45LC for some time. Finally found one with my desired 7-1/2'' barrel on consignment. Serial number dates it to 1981. 98% fit and finish with a perfect trigger. PM'd Ms. NCG to get her opinion on this model and she gave me her usual thoughtful and measured response. So I bought it. This one is a real sweet shooter. After a couple of range sessions I have found that it shoots a far tighter group with the .45 ACP. At 60 feet I can now manage a 3'' group with 50 rounds, while the .45LC is doing about 5''. This is with the factory iron sights and my aged eyes. Bench rest. Did I mention the PERFECT trigger? I will play with ammo choices, and eventually put a red dot on it. Lots of potential here. All of this of course is just FYI.

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