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Old January 11th, 2017, 02:09 PM   #61
 
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Bought one from Buds for $615. I'll pick it up in a couple of days.



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Old January 12th, 2017, 09:25 AM   #62
 
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I'll have to see what 22.0gr of H110 under a 200gr Speer Gold Dot will do...

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I have H110,the GD's and 44 Special Brass, but only have a CA Bulldog

I found this while looking at PM's and silver solder

ARMSLIST - For Sale: NIB RUGER GP100 44 SPECIAL SS 3"

What's a good OTD pricing on these in the wild?

Just saw the above post. The LeMaster Hudson one would be $640.24 OTD with 6% MeatChicken sales tax.
So with shipping and transfer from Buds, the Local Jewelers price is comparable

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Old January 12th, 2017, 09:26 AM   #63
 
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I have H110,the GD's and 44 Special Brass, but only have a CA Bulldog

I found this while looking at PM's and silver solder

ARMSLIST - For Sale: NIB RUGER GP100 44 SPECIAL SS 3"

What's a good OTD pricing on these in the wild?
Heck I thought $619 was a good deal....

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Awesome gun, I hope you get the accuracy issues ironed out.......

This is one that people said "Ruger would never make".........along with the 8-shot .357 Redhawk my dealer said is coming out soon.....another "we'll never see it" gun from Ruger

I will have to take a pass myself on this, since I just recently picked up a Kodiak Backpacker .44, to fill my "snub .44" needs, along with an Alaskan .44........for my needs a slightly smaller frame 5-shot .44 Special would be redundant since I know I'd never carry it, and I hardly shoot the other two.

MAYBE, in a few/several months, I'll pick one up used at a gun show-shop when someone gets tired of buying $40 a box .44 Special and trades one in

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You wouldn't be undercutting them, because I won't pay that much anyway. I think I would go $7 tho, since I already have a Blackhawk .44 special and all of the reloading stuff on hand. It looks like a great woods walking gun! I've been trying to even locate a Taurus 44 special for a couple of years without success. Ruger is worth the extra $ to me.
Kraynky - I own a Taurus Tracker 4" in .44 Magnum but carry .44 Specials, and I loved the price I got it for as new can be found from $449 to $599 depending who you go through. I haven't handled the new Ruger GP100 yet, but already from the photos seen, I prefer the Tracker Target sights over the Ruger GP100 sights. The one thing, the Ruger will have much better strength as it is forged, and not cast. Just an FYI
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If I could easily obtain the brass bead sight from the Hawkeye Matte Wiley Clapp (I have one but I would never "cannabalize" the sight off a $700 gun) and swap it into the dovetail of the .44 Special GP100 I would be a lot more interested. Ruger is somewhat unpredictable as to what they will sell as a spare part.

I think Ruger should have just went with the standard, tried and true socket style front sight for these but it's not a deal breaker.

I will cringe, the first time I read somewhere about "opening them up for .44 Magnum". NO, just no. I can almost hear the wheels turning in some people's minds when I first saw this new GP, if anyone has that thought, no, don't do it. Just buy a .44 Mag revolver, it's not like you can't just get a Kodiak Redhawk or Alaskan.
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I will cringe, the first time I read somewhere about "opening them up for .44 Magnum". NO, just no. I can almost hear the wheels turning in some people's minds when I first saw this new GP, if anyone has that thought, no, don't do it. Just buy a .44 Mag revolver, it's not like you can't just get a Kodiak Redhawk or Alaskan.
We were just talking about this yesterday. It is just a matter of time before someone does it for better or worse.


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So I now have a new GP100 to replace the first model that didn't shoot so good. This one has half the cylinger gap and a better double action trigger. The single action may be just a smidgen heavier but it is still pretty crisp and should be easy enough to work with.

I don't have but a handful of rounds through the new gun but initial results appear to be positive.

Here is five rounds of the CCI Blazer Gold Dot load from 25 yards. This chronographs in the 825fps range from my barrel.



I didn't use this ammo in the old Ruger so I don't have any comparison.

And here is ten rounds of the plated bullet loaded by Precision One. Much better than from the other gun!



I have a few of my loads using the GT 220gr cast HP and also a few rounds loaded with a 180gr XTP that I'll try to shoot over the weekend.

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While I'm writing about the Gold Dot, here are a few recovered bullets. These were fired into the 10% gel from Clear Ballistics.

The top bullet is into bare gel. Expansion is textbook and the bullet is now almost three quarters of an inch. Penetration was about 13in into the block.

The second bullet was fired through a layer of denim and a thin layer of insulation followed by cotton shirt and t-shirt material. Expansion wasn't as dramatic but not terrible either. And of course the retarded expansion means another couple inches of penetration.

The last bullet is the Gold Dot through four layers of denim per the IWBA protocol. Expansion was zero and the bullet penetrated in excess of 20in.



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Hmm, not such a good carry load - from that small sample size at least.
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More gel photos. This is a 220gr cast hollow point from GT Bullets. It was loaded to about 1,000fps using Unique.

Pentration after clothing and denim was 24in or so. Pretty impressive really. I imagine a load like this would be a good wilderness or back country hiking choice.

Heavy clothing on top. Denim in the middle. Gold Dot after denim for comparison.



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So I now have a new GP100 to replace the first model that didn't shoot so good. This one has half the cylinger gap and a better double action trigger. The single action may be just a smidgen heavier but it is still pretty crisp and should be easy enough to work with.

I don't have but a handful of rounds through the new gun but initial results appear to be positive.

Here is five rounds of the CCI Blazer Gold Dot load from 25 yards. This chronographs in the 825fps range from my barrel.



I didn't use this ammo in the old Ruger so I don't have any comparison.

And here is ten rounds of the plated bullet loaded by Precision One. Much better than from the other gun!



I have a few of my loads using the GT 220gr cast HP and also a few rounds loaded with a 180gr XTP that I'll try to shoot over the weekend.

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What Chronograph are you using? I'm going to get one as a birthday gift to
myself.
Wait, that's what the GP-100 was. Well, I've been very good this year.
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What Chronograph are you using? I'm going to get one as a birthday gift to
myself.
Wait, that's what the GP-100 was. Well, I've been very good this year.
A PACT. I'd also recommend the Shooting Chrony stuff.

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Here are some additional photos.

This is a 200gr Speer Gold Dot loaded with 5.9gr of Red Dot.



Here is a hot charge of Unique (over max depending on the book) with the same bullet. Note four rounds near the Red Dot group and the one flyer way up above the bullseye. This would seem to confirm my belief that the Underwood load is pushing the Gold Dot too hard.



More evidence that the 1100fps Underwood load is too hot. This is five rounds of Underwood's Bulldog load. Same bullet that was keyholing on me. But it is 125fps slower.



And here's a handload with a 180gr XTP. This bullet didn't shoot well in the original gun. In fact I didn't get any jacketed bullet to shoot very well in the original one.



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Have you tried any of Buffalo Bore's .44 Special defensive rounds in a gas checked soft lead semi wad cutter HP?? I have seem some of these bullets used in .357/.38Special loads. I also think that if you do some research you can probably duplicate this same type of gas checked bullet for personal use with some reloads. BTW I am very glad to hear that you now seem to have a really nice shooting revolver. I really like the GP100 revolvers with 3 inch barrels. Having a GP100 WC variant in .357 Mag. Also I have found thru usage my GP100 now has a much smoother nicer trigger pull & action your fine GP100-44 Special will also do the very same good luck to you!!!
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